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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    This is your truth again. Do you believe there are NO racists in the Democratic party? Really? Just for reference what party was Lincoln?
    Why are you trying to distract from the issue with an obvious straw man argument? The fact is that the South turned from blue to red primarily because they objected to the Democrats' pro-civil rights agenda. The present alignment of the Democratic and Republican parties bears very little relation to their respective alignments in the 19th century.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    This is your truth again. Do you believe there are NO racists in the Democratic party? Really? Just for reference what party was Lincoln?
    Ancient history again? Can't seem to find enough modern examples?? I wonder why that is???
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Ancient history again? Can't seem to find enough modern examples?? I wonder why that is???
    Modern? Sure how about Bill Clinton. Isn't he a 'southern Democrat'? I thought they didn't exist...

    How about George Wallace? Wasn't he a 'southern Democrat'?

    Further, who's the only black American currently on the Supreme Court? Clarence Thomas. The first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell. The first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice. And Republicans are racist as infered by the OP.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    This is your truth again. Do you believe there are NO racists in the Democratic party? Really? Just for reference what party was Lincoln?
    Whig Party, for most of his life. He considered himself a Whig. Whigs were liberals, although they did form the Republican Party not long before Lincoln was elected president. The Whig Party was considered liberal (while the Democratic party at the time would be considered conservative).

    From the early 1830s, Lincoln was a steadfast Whig and professed to friends in 1861 to be, "an old line Whig, a disciple of Henry Clay".[55] The party, including Lincoln, favored economic modernization in banking, protective tariffs to fund internal improvements including railroads, and espoused urbanization as well.[56]

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Modern? Sure how about Bill Clinton. Isn't he a 'southern Democrat'? I thought they didn't exist...
    I thought he was the first black president. Anyway, Southern Democrats do indeed exist -- they are called conservatives.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    I thought he was the first black president. Anyway, Southern Democrats do indeed exist -- they are called conservatives.
    There you go...true to form...ad hom' as usual. Thanks for your consistency.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The moral of this story, boys and girls, is to not repeat talking points that one has not researched, despite how good they may sound

    Of course another moral to this story is to not put a whole lot of worth in Karl's post. He has a tendency to cherry pick data to support his point regardless how minimally then once confronted pivots to ad hominem…(see I can practice the ad hominem too).

    Maybe a more reputable source for support:

    In 1858 Lincoln ran against Stephen A. Douglas for Senator. He lost the election, but in debating with Douglas he gained a national reputation that won him the Republican nomination for President in 1860.

    As President, he built the Republican Party into a strong national organization. Further, he rallied most of the northern Democrats to the Union cause. On January 1, 1863, he issued the Emancipation Proclamation that declared forever free those slaves within the Confederacy

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy
    Further, who's the only black American currently on the Supreme Court? Clarence Thomas. The first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell. The first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice. And Republicans are racist as infered by the OP.
    Those are 3 impressive APPOINTEES. Now how about ELECTEES?


    Note...I am not now nor have I ever said Republicans or conservatives are racists. They just don't seem to attract many people of color...
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Modern? Sure how about Bill Clinton. Isn't he a 'southern Democrat'? I thought they didn't exist...

    How about George Wallace? Wasn't he a 'southern Democrat'?

    Further, who's the only black American currently on the Supreme Court? Clarence Thomas. The first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell. The first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice. And Republicans are racist as infered by the OP.
    Southern Democrat does not mean a Democrat from the South.

    Clinton was no Southern Democrat.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Modern? Sure how about Bill Clinton. Isn't he a 'southern Democrat'? I thought they didn't exist...

    How about George Wallace? Wasn't he a 'southern Democrat'?

    Further, who's the only black American currently on the Supreme Court? Clarence Thomas. The first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell. The first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice. And Republicans are racist as infered by the OP.
    Perhaps you're confusing "Southern Democrat" with "southern Democrat"? It's OK, many people on here don't know the difference between "Communism" and "communism", either. Common mistakes. I admit I sometimes have trouble with the proper use of capital letters, too.


    You and I both know there would have been bloody hell to pay if a black judge wasn't replaced by a black judge. The black judge that died was appointed by LBJ.

    Thurgood Marshall had 11 nays on his appointment, all but one from Southern Democrats. Most of those were replaced by Republicans within two voting cycles. A couple of conservatives lasted into the 80's. One, Hollings of SC, lasted until 2005. Of course, we must also consider the Confederate Flag went up over the SC Statehouse in 1962 when he was Governor and didn't come down until, what?, July 2000? LOL!


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    No one said all Republicans are racist and I've never considered Bush Sr as one. I wouldn't have voted for him in '88 if I had thought that.
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