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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The subject of the post you were responding to was civil rights legislation.
    The thread is titled "ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law" and there have been several conversations surrounding this subject, civil rights legislation among them. However I was obviously referring to other legislation while you were hoping for a "gotcha".

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The thread is titled "ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law" and there have been several conversations surrounding this subject, civil rights legislation among them. However I was obviously referring to other legislation while you were hoping for a "gotcha".
    OK, whatever.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I thought you guys hated Federal programs. Obama cuts one and it's "Goddamn Obama!"

    Make up your mind.
    Since DC is governed by the Federal government I can't really say that a schools system should be off limits in this case, however, this was a program that was working for the children for DC, and because Obama just couldn't have a voucher system that worked right under his nose, he trashed it, after he lied to the residents telling them he wouldn't touch it....But now we know his lying is a pattern.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [...] however, this was a program that was working for the children for DC, and because Obama just couldn't have a voucher system that worked right under his nose, he trashed it, [...]
    Do you have any links to some kind of evidence that the DC system was doing fantastic? What I read of Rhee during a little research wasn't a very pretty picture so I'm sure you weren't referring to that part of the subject. Where are the reliable statistics? I'm for any kind of education reform if it is proved to work but I've seen no evidence of that to date.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Do you have any links to some kind of evidence that the DC system was doing fantastic? What I read of Rhee during a little research wasn't a very pretty picture so I'm sure you weren't referring to that part of the subject. Where are the reliable statistics? I'm for any kind of education reform if it is proved to work but I've seen no evidence of that to date.

    The Department of Education’s 2013 budget will not provide funding for the D.C. voucher program despite a promise Obama made last April in a budget agreement he signed that helped avert a government shutdown, says the American Federation for Children (AFC).

    The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program (OSP) currently provides scholarships to more than 1,600 low-income children to attend the private schools of their parents’ choice.

    Kevin P. Chavous, a senior advisor to AFC and a former D.C. Councilman, said:

    “The president says he’s for education reform, but his actions continually aim to send low-income and minority students back to schools that are failing them academically, are unsafe, or are otherwise not meeting their needs.

    “This latest hypocrisy is just the most recent instance in which the president has stood in the way of students who are improving test scores and graduating in higher numbers.”

    Obama barred new students from applying to the OSP after 2009.

    Chavous said:

    “By any reasonable measure, the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program has been an overwhelming success.

    “President Obama wouldn’t be where he is today without a private school scholarship. He needs to stop playing politics and do what’s right for kids.”

    Since the program’s inception in 2004, more than 10,000 families have applied to participate in the OSP.

    Obama

    The stats on the program I am sure on online somewhere, but every article I pull up on it uses the term, "highly successful" when talking about the program.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    The tenure of Michelle Rhee in DC is under investigation

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/ed...uiry.html?_r=1

    Not exactly what I would term 'highly successful' but then perhaps my standards of success are different than others here.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The tenure of Michelle Rhee in DC is under investigation

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/ed...uiry.html?_r=1

    Not exactly what I would term 'highly successful' but then perhaps my standards of success are different than others here.
    Get back to us on this when a non-partisan body, unlike the Department of Education investigates. Until then it's politics as usual.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant, replying to another View Post
    But you don't know, do you? That's so left.
    I read the Freeper article, so I do know -- it was correlation/causation fallacy. That's so right.

    Freeper: Unwed births to black mothers has gone up (as a percentage of all births) since LBJ's mid-1960's Great Society implementation.

    Fact: Unwed births to all mothers -- globally -- has gone up (as a percentage of all births) since the mid-1960's.

    Observation: Your prior post, as well as the Freeper article you produced to support it, both reek of denigration based upon race (while studiouosly ignoring context).
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The tenure of Michelle Rhee in DC is under investigation

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/ed...uiry.html?_r=1

    Not exactly what I would term 'highly successful' but then perhaps my standards of success are different than others here.
    There is no evidence of any wrongdoing on this woman's part whatsoever.

    It appears to be just another White House witch hunt.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The tenure of Michelle Rhee in DC is under investigation

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/ed...uiry.html?_r=1

    Not exactly what I would term 'highly successful' but then perhaps my standards of success are different than others here.
    Get back to us on this when a non-partisan body, unlike the Department of Education investigates. Until then it's politics as usual.
    The magnitude of that non-sequitur deserves a Richter scale measurement

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