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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    My contention is that Republican supporters tend to be more intelligent than those who support the Democrats. Thanks for helping me make my case.
    Your statement tends to show the opposite - assuming you support Republicans.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    [...] Yes, i believe the States should be running their education system in order that politicians like BHO cannot play these games on a national level. That is giving the Feds too much power.. The Feds have politicized education, as we can see, and that is to no ones benefit. [...]
    What games are being played with education on "a national level"?

    Bonus question: How have "the feds politicized education"?

    And all this applies to the thread topic how?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    [...] If you can explain how having an ID to vote is regulating an individual please explain how that is being done. [...]
    They are doing it how they always do it... by tailoring the requirements so that the demographic that they wish to disenfranchise is the most affected/distracted/inconvenienced by said requirements.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    so, you think that those civil rights demonstrators were unintelligent?

    Does that mean you think they were wrong?
    No, I strongly support civil rights and don't believe the demonstrators were wrong at all. In fact these people were having very peaceful protests, quite unlike what happened in Oakland and other places where the OWS took hold.

    And you do know that George Wallace was a Democrat, right?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    My contention is that Republican supporters tend to be more intelligent than those who support the Democrats.
    Gee, I wonder why people think you're a partisan hack?....


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And you do know that George Wallace was a Democrat, right?
    When you say things like,

    The President (John F. Kennedy) wants us to surrender this state to Martin Luther King and his group of pro-Communists who have instituted these demonstrations.
    you kind of broadcast your real affiliation regardless of what it might be on paper. Wallace had to resort to running as an Independent for President, the Democrats wouldn't let him on their ballot.


    Most southern whites felt rejected by the Democrats because the Dems supported civil rights and, Voila!, the pro-Republican South was born!
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    What games are being played with education on "a national level"?

    Bonus question: How have "the feds politicized education"?
    Ask the kids in DC that were actually starting to get an education, before Obama came to town as President that is....

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    MoSurveyor;1060264902]When you say things like,

    The President (John F. Kennedy) wants us to surrender this state to Martin Luther King and his group of pro-Communists who have instituted these demonstrations.
    you kind of broadcast your real affiliation regardless of what it might be on paper.
    But of course I never said that. I never even hinted at it.

    Wallace had to resort to running as an Independent for President, the Democrats wouldn't let him on their ballot.
    I assume you are not American. Any reasonably well educated American would know that George Wallace ran for President on the Democratic ticket in 1964 and did very well on the states he entered, northern states by the way.
    Most southern whites felt rejected by the Democrats because the Dems supported civil rights and, Voila!, the pro-Republican South was born!
    That's the claim now, but history contradicts this blithe account of things.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But of course I never said that. I never even hinted at it.
    All that is an reference to Wallace. I believe that quote was from a speech he made in 1963 when he was Governor of AL. I don't where you got the idea that I thought you said it. Wallace's apparent intent after 1960 was to reject the civil rights movement (or, at least, black's rights in the South) so he could win the Alabama Governor's race. He succeeded in that. He won in 1962 and kept going down that path to keep his white voter base.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I assume you are not American. Any reasonably well educated American would know that George Wallace ran for President on the Democratic ticket in 1964 and did very well on the states he entered, northern states by the way.
    You mean he ran in the PRIMARIES to become a candidate for President in 1964. He didn't make it by a long shot.

    -Any reasonably educated American would know that Johnson "ran for President on the Democratic ticket in 1964" - and won.
    -Any reasonably educated American would know that Wallace ran for President on the Independent ticket in 1968.

    So much for who is or isn't a "reasonably well educated American" or, according to you, an American at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's the claim now, but history contradicts this blithe account of things.
    There are two funny things about history. One, the winners write the books. Two, the "facts" as some people call them, which are usually just opinions that connect the actual facts, are open to interpretation and everyone believes their version is 'right'.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Looks like sanity is rearing its ugly head in a few U.S. jurisdictions. A Wisconsin judge just suspended that state's voter ID law, stating:

    [F]orty uncontested affidavits offer a picture of carousel visits to government offices, delay, dysfunctional computer systems, misinformation and significant investment of time to avoid being turned away at the ballot box. This is burdensome, all the more for the elderly and the disabled. . . . Mr. Ricky Tyrone Lewis is 58 years old, a Marine Corps Veteran and a lifelong Milwaukee resident. He was able to offer proof of his honorable discharge but Milwaukee County has been unable to find the record of his birth so he cannot obtain a voter ID card. Ms. Ruthelle Frank, now 84, is a lifelong resident of Brokaw, Wisconsin and a member of her town board since 1996. She has voted in every election over the past 64 years but she does not have a voter ID card. She located her birth certificate but found that her name was misspelled. She was advised to obtain a certified copy of the incorrect birth certificate and try to use that to obtain a voter ID card. . . .

    The plaintiffs do not dispute, and the court certainly accepts fully the value of maintaining the accuracy and security of the ballot process. At this point, however, the record is uncontested that recent investigations of vote irregularities, both in the City of Milwaukee and by the Attorney General have produced extremely little evidence of fraud and that which has been uncovered, improper use of absentee ballots and unqualified voters, would not have been prevented by the photo identification requirements of Act 23.


    Judge grants temporary injunction barring enforcement of voter ID law in April election
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