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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I can't help but wonder about all those old people who lack birth certificates and ID: How do they get their Social Security and Medicare?

    Sooner or later, everyone needs to have a BC anyway. How else do we know who is a citizen and who is not?
    If you mean as far as getting their SSN & etc, ID's weren't really required that much years ago. As I said earlier, I've managed to live 50+ years w/out a copy of my BC and I've got all the standard ID & other cards/junk most people have. Never had to show a BC in my life. I was born in the city so mine's on record and relatively easy to get if I need one - but I won't. My father didn't have a BC. If he were still alive it'd be damn hard for him to prove who he is. My mother could get one if needed, her birth county was fairly large.

    Around here by ~1950 (IIRC) it was common practice to record births even in small rural counties. If they want to make things simple they should just cut it off there. Earlier than 1950 let them use their SS card (if needed) to get the State ID. That would leave darn few qualified voters without a relatively easy means of identifying themselves.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    And many countries with higher standards of living that aren't going broke over their healthcare.
    Such as?

    And don't have like 10 oil tycoons controlling a quarter of the country's wealth by one means or another.
    Spare me the liberal pap please.

    And Venezuela has had nationalized oil virtually for decades, they supply a tenth of the US's demand nicely
    I hate that we buy from them. It is arguably the dirtiest crude on the market, and we are probably the only place that has the capability to refine it. This is why I don't by CITGO gas.

    and they're able to drive their cars at 50c a gallon.
    But, but, I thought oil was ALL derived from a global market? How is it that they can pay that? You mean they refine their own oil and use it? But we can't is that right?

    As a natural resource on the countries territory it belongs to the people whether you deny it or not.
    Ok, if it is mine, I can say Drill!


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now Ditto, I like ya dude, but let's not take the leap into total misinformation...Need I post the testimony yet again?

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    You have testimony about how wonderfully well capitalism worked back in the 19th. century, without that pesky government regulation? I suppose compared to actual socialism, it may have been somewhat better.

    Maybe you could cite the Grapes of Wrath... no, that was early 20th. century, wasn't it?
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You have testimony about how wonderfully well capitalism worked back in the 19th. century, without that pesky government regulation? I suppose compared to actual socialism, it may have been somewhat better.

    Maybe you could cite the Grapes of Wrath... no, that was early 20th. century, wasn't it?

    Cute...But I am sure you've seen it...You know the one I have been posting since WS showing demo's attacking the Fannie regulator, while the repubs warned of impending down fall....So I won't post it again...But I think we both know who was pushing this crap, and who wasn't.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Have you considered the possibility that the fault is not with the report?
    Why is it that 15 million wouldn't be able to prove they are citizens?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Cute...But I am sure you've seen it...You know the one I have been posting since WS showing demo's attacking the Fannie regulator, while the repubs warned of impending down fall....So I won't post it again...But I think we both know who was pushing this crap, and who wasn't.


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    Oh, that one. Does that mean you think that, if the Democrats were against it, and the Republicans for it, it must have been a bad idea?

    I didn't say anything about parties, you see, just that the lack of regulation of the mortgage industry wasn't such a good idea.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, that one. Does that mean you think that, if the Democrats were against it, and the Republicans for it, it must have been a bad idea?

    I didn't say anything about parties, you see, just that the lack of regulation of the mortgage industry wasn't such a good idea.
    There doesn't appear to have been be any lack of government regulations in the mortgage industry. Quite the opposite.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There doesn't appear to have been be any lack of government regulations in the mortgage industry. Quite the opposite.
    That statement is based on... what again? Wasn't it the sale of creative (subprime) mortgages that punched a hole in the housing bubble to start with?

    Wasn't government regulation needed to stop the practice of bundling subprime mortgages and selling them as viable assets?
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry, replying to Karl View Post
    Why is it that 15 million wouldn't be able to prove they are citizens?
    It would have been simpler to just say "No".

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, that one. Does that mean you think that, if the Democrats were against it, and the Republicans for it, it must have been a bad idea?

    I didn't say anything about parties, you see, just that the lack of regulation of the mortgage industry wasn't such a good idea.

    No, I actually agree with you. But we had a regulator shouting what would happen, and repubs trying like hell to address this very point, now after the fact all we hear from libs is how the repubs were in bed with the big nasty mean ol' bankers to ruin this country for greed, when in reality it was a vote buying scheme by libs, and progressives all along.


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