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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why stop there? Just vote someone in that will have the balls to say that he is nationalizing all business in America, private property will now be taken and distributed among the proletariat (er, ummm) I mean the people. And income will now all derive in the form of a monthly stipend from the US Treasury.....

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    or go totally the other way and not regulate any industry. That strategy worked well in the 19th. century, you know.

    Oh, yes, and the mortgage industry did a great job of regulating itself at the beginning of the 21st.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    or go totally the other way and not regulate any industry. That strategy worked well in the 19th. century, you know.

    Oh, yes, and the mortgage industry did a great job of regulating itself at the beginning of the 21st.
    Now Ditto, I like ya dude, but let's not take the leap into total misinformation...Need I post the testimony yet again?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why stop there? Just vote someone in that will have the balls to say that he is nationalizing all business in America, private property will now be taken and distributed among the proletariat (er, ummm) I mean the people. And income will now all derive in the form of a monthly stipend from the US Treasury.....

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    This is absurd J, only a few strategic industries really need to be nationalized to save money and put them towards the ends they are meant to accomplish without a profit motive that gouges us and fubars our economy.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    This is absurd J, only a few strategic industries really need to be nationalized to save money and put them towards the ends they are meant to accomplish without a profit motive that gouges us and fubars our economy.
    Just so we are on the same page, you ARE in favor of nationalizing US industries?


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    Cry us a river, wahahahahahaha. Woe is me I have no car, no bus, no train, no plane. A poor sack like that has more important concerns than voting, like their next meal or a place to sleep. Get a clue.
    Isn't that the point that many people have been making on this thread? Poor people can't vote?

    I'm not saying that IS the motivation behind it, that is kind of why I started the thread, but I think you made the point for us. Thanks!

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just so we are on the same page, you ARE in favor of nationalizing US industries?


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    Oil, medicine... that's all I can really think of. There are many excellent foreign examples.
    This of course is hypothetical, as great as it would be we certainly couldn't kill the leaders of oil companies or BioPharm companies.... the bastards.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Oil, medicine... that's all I can really think of. There are many excellent foreign examples.

    What? Venezuela? Cuba? yep, great examples....Oh brother.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    We have gone through so many years in the United States without Voter ID laws, and we now suddenly need them? Voter fraud is not something that is not common in the United States and this seems like an attempt to disenfranchise certain sets of voters.
    Through your use of a double negative, you affirm that voter fraud is in fact a common problem in this country, so why would actions to prevent fraud be cause of concern? The democrats always seem to make an issue of race that has nothing to do with race, to me it seems like a very simple requirement to verify a voter's identity, and in fact, I am baffled that we haven't implemented it sooner. Or maybe we should just continue on the honor system?

    I'm about as libertarian as they come, and am against almost all new programs imposed by the government, but I would see no problem with the government issuing an ID for citizens on a volunteer basis who are too poor to afford it and would like to vote.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? Venezuela? Cuba? yep, great examples....Oh brother.


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    And many countries with higher standards of living that aren't going broke over their healthcare. And don't have like 10 oil tycoons controlling a quarter of the country's wealth by one means or another.

    And Venezuela has had nationalized oil virtually for decades, they supply a tenth of the US's demand nicely and they're able to drive their cars at 50c a gallon. As a natural resource on the countries territory it belongs to the people whether you deny it or not.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Through your use of a double negative, you affirm that voter fraud is in fact a common problem in this country, so why would actions to prevent fraud be cause of concern? The democrats always seem to make an issue of race that has nothing to do with race, to me it seems like a very simple requirement to verify a voter's identity, and in fact, I am baffled that we haven't implemented it sooner. Or maybe we should just continue on the honor system?

    I'm about as libertarian as they come, and am against almost all new programs imposed by the government, but I would see no problem with the government issuing an ID for citizens on a volunteer basis who are too poor to afford it and would like to vote.
    I did not notice my typo, but my intent was this: Voter fraud is not something that is common in the United States, note the absense of the second not.
    I will not argue who / what the intent is. GOP argues for less regulation and they push for this? Dems argue the intent is to disenfranshise people who typically vote for them, I don't know. What is wrong with the homor system? Everyone seem to think someone is "out to get them". Are there that many dishonest people, or is there just something other than fluoride in the water?

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