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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Never have, never will I think.

    My personal feeling on this is that it'll be something like Citizens United: It'll pass in a few states, the Republicans will cheer and take credit for "ending voter fraud." Democrats will launch an effort to make sure people have a photo ID, and end up winning an election. Republicans will piss and moan about how this devious program resulted in Democratic victory and start trying to come up with something else.
    That sounds about right.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What makes you think it would only suppress the Democratic turnout?
    It would predominantly suppress the Democratic vote because people who lack ID are mostly low income folks who tend to vote Democratic.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Could be, but that seems like a big assumption if the states are willing to issue voter ID free of charge.
    Getting the ID takes documentation. I don't have a copy of my birth certificate, for example, which is $15 plus the hassle of getting it (takes a trip to City Hall or County Courthouse if you're not in the Net). I know it's not much be it's still not "free", exactly. For people who never had one recorded because of age and/or place of birth it's get expensive - so there can be considerable cost for a few people even with a free ID card. This also doesn't include the hassle for some older people just to get around. There are free services that will shuttle handicapped people to the polls but I doubt they'd cover this. Hopefully some organization will step up and provide assistance for these people.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It would predominantly suppress the Democratic vote because people who lack ID are mostly low income folks who tend to vote Democratic.
    The poorly educated and/or those who want something for nothing.

    That's the Democrats base, and why they are so against voter ID.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    The warriors who died for your right to vote had ID.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by CedarBear View Post
    The warriors who died for your right to vote had ID.
    The who died founding it didn't.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    So, where's all the data showing how many people don't have photo IDs, and where they are?

    It's often asserted that these people are legion, and they're in heavily-Democratic areas. What data are these assertions based ON?
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's a darn good question, but it seems to me that even the Republicans think it would. That's the only way I could explain their rabid support for it.
    Try a wee bit harder.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Getting the ID takes documentation. I don't have a copy of my birth certificate, for example, which is $15 plus the hassle of getting it (takes a trip to City Hall or County Courthouse if you're not in the Net). I know it's not much be it's still not "free", exactly. For people who never had one recorded because of age and/or place of birth it's get expensive - so there can be considerable cost for a few people even with a free ID card. This also doesn't include the hassle for some older people just to get around. There are free services that will shuttle handicapped people to the polls but I doubt they'd cover this. Hopefully some organization will step up and provide assistance for these people.
    You have a S.S. card.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The poorly educated and/or those who want something for nothing.

    That's the Democrats base, and why they are so against voter ID.
    That's why Republicans are for it -- so that people who might vote Democratic don't vote.

    Obviously, the Democrats are against something that hurts their chances electorally. Why would they be for it? They're not that dumb. I know you meant it as a knock, but I think it's pretty obvious that if something hurts Democratic turnout, Republicans are for it, and Democrats are against it. They both want to win first and foremost.

    If people without IDs were small business owners, guess how that would change?


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