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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Voting is a right, the rest of the things you mention that you need ID for are privileges which can have stipulations.
    There are stipulations to vote. You have to register.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Voting is a right, the rest of the things you mention that you need ID for are privileges which can have stipulations.
    Again, what is so hard about getting an ID? You have a right to eat to, but if you don't have cash, you do have to go get the food stamps to buy the food.

    Why is this so hard for Democrats to get on board with?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Voting is a right,
    Some type of identification, but, not the stringent photo id.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Again, what is so hard about getting an ID? You have a right to eat to, but if you don't have cash, you do have to go get the food stamps to buy the food.

    Why is this so hard for Democrats to get on board with?
    Why does it have to be a broad Dems. v GOP?

    Here is a repost on the difficulties in getting ID

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Birth Certificates - New York State Department of Health

    I used the mail request example because some (poor and elderly) do not have access to the internet for a variety of reasons. I use New York as an example because that is my birth state and I had to get a new BC. 45.00 may not seem like a lot to people who have never lived on a budget, but it is hard to understand if you have never been there. In addition to the above costs please see below for further requirements:
    Identification Requirements - application must be submitted with copies of either A or B:

    One (1) of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
    Driver license
    State issued non-driver photo-ID card
    Passport
    U.S. Military issued photo-ID

    Two (2) of the following showing the applicant's name and address:
    Utility or telephone bills
    Letter from a government agency dated within the last six (6) months

    You need friggin' ID to get ID. Huh?

    Getting these other items takes time and money as well.


    Bob, I know you did not address the transportation issue but I would like to use this space to explain it as it was mentioned that anyone can get transportation.

    If you live off a bus line, in a rural area, cannot ride the bus etc... there is no "voter transportation assistance." Wisconsin can't even get it right for medical transportation.

    Please see the ridiculous requirements for medical transport:
    Wisconsin Medical Assistance Transportation, UW Health, University of Wisconsin Hospital, Madison

    In addition to all the hoops the program is being run by a questionable company:
    LogistiCare's medical transport service generates more complaints - JSOnline
    Mail requests ordered with priority handling ($45.00 per copy ordered) are currently processed within two (2) to four (4) weeks from when they are received. Submitting the application to the Vital Records Processing Center by overnight delivery is recommended. Completed requests will be returned by first class mail unless a prepaid return mailer for overnight delivery is provided with the request.
    Mail requests ordered with regular handling ($30.00 per copy ordered) are currently processed within six (6) to eight (8) weeks from when they are received.
    Now I am getting off topic, I just wanted to show how difficult it is for some people to get around as it was mentioned in this thread.
    So how do we vote in Wisconsin if we can't get a ride or ID? We don't.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Again, what is so hard about getting an ID? You have a right to eat to, but if you don't have cash, you do have to go get the food stamps to buy the food.

    Why is this so hard for Democrats to get on board with?
    Because a lot of these States expect people to have to buy their Right to vote. Sorry, according to the 24th Amendment it doesn't work that way. Make the ID free or go home.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Because a lot of these States expect people to have to buy their Right to vote.
    Link? .........

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Link? .........
    Here's one showing a $25 fee for a Florida State ID card.

    http://www.flhsmv.gov/DHSMVFees.htm

    You can research the other states at your leisure. (Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan and South Dakota)
    Read more: Which States Require a Photo ID to Vote? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5375741_st...#ixzz1ncW8Gl8k)


    I think they cost the same as a driver's license here, which is $30, but it may be half that. We both have a license and it's been a few years since our daughter got an ID - she drives now, too. Of course, in MO we don't require photo ID but they do issue a voter registration card for free (not photo ID). You have to present the voter card OR a photo ID (State ID or license) to vote here.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Here's one showing a $25 fee for a Florida State ID card.

    DHSMV: Motorist Services Fees

    You can research the other states at your leisure. (Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan and South Dakota)
    Read more: Which States Require a Photo ID to Vote? | eHow.com Which States Require a Photo ID to Vote? | eHow.com)


    I think they cost the same as a driver's license here, which is $30, but it may be half that. We both have a license and it's been a few years since our daughter got an ID - she drives now, too. Of course, in MO we don't require photo ID but they do issue a voter registration card for free (not photo ID). You have to present the voter card OR a photo ID (State ID or license) to vote here.
    Sure. They charge you to get an I.D. Nowhere does it state that this is required to vote.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Sure. They charge you to get an I.D. Nowhere does it state that this is required to vote.
    http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publ...erRegGuide.pdf


    Ed:
    Except for the driver's license I don't have any of the other options - and they all appear to be organisation specific so they're not available to the general public.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publ...erRegGuide.pdf

    Except for the driver's license I don't have any of the other options - and they all appear to be organisation specific.
    Sorry, you are going to have to point out where they require you to pay $25 for an I.D. to vote. I couldn't find it.

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