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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So what?

    If people are too stupid or incompetent do get the ID necessary to vote perhaps its best that they stay away from a voting booth.
    We need a nice political tests full of obvious **** radicals can't handle and them cut about 20% of american citizens out of the voter picture.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If identity is so easy to fake that it is no longer worthwhile to bother with, why have ID for driver's licenses, libraries, passports, prescriptions and a myriad of other areas?

    Perhaps the idea is not to drop ID's altogether but to get them to be more effective, and with greater penalties for faking them.
    That's all fine and true, but if you want to do something about that 1% or less of votes that are the result of voter fraud, then do something about that. This regulation doesn't fix that.

    As I've said, I find it hard to believe that Conservatives are advocating that we need 50 different regulations (one for each state) that don't fix such a small problem. If the government tried to do this to a corporation, you'd be all up in arms about "killing jobs," but when it comes to regulating individuals, you guys are all over that.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's all fine and true, but if you want to do something about that 1% or less of votes that are the result of voter fraud, then do something about that. This regulation doesn't fix that.
    Oh hell, it's nowhere NEAR 1% of the vote that is a problem. We're talking about suppressing about 2% of the vote to address a problem with something like 0.001% of the vote.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Seems to me the solution is to make it easier for elderly and minorities to procure a photo ID, then...
    Thats been our point. Its not a dumb idea to require picture IDs to vote, but to ensure no one is disenfranchised due to the requirement the states who require said law should pay for the IDs and ensure it as easy to get an idea as possible. Mind you, this will not stop voter fraud
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Whether or not voter fraud is a big problem, the perception that elections are not above board is a big problem for democracy.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Whether or not voter fraud is a big problem, the perception that elections are not above board is a big problem for democracy.
    I don't think that is a widespread perception at all. It's a perception that Republicans are trying to spread in order to pass these laws that would suppress Democratic turnout.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't think that is a widespread perception at all. It's a perception that Republicans are trying to spread in order to pass these laws that would suppress Democratic turnout.
    Just keep in mind the Shrub was only elected by a 5-4 vote.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't think that is a widespread perception at all. It's a perception that Republicans are trying to spread in order to pass these laws that would suppress Democratic turnout.
    Look at the silver lining, it'll give you something additional to whine about when you lose in November.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Look at the silver lining, it'll give you something additional to whine about when you lose in November.
    I can already hear you crying about voter fraud when Obama is reelected.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I can already hear you crying about voter fraud when Obama is reelected.
    Sure, cause I'm the one with about 30 posts on this thread whining about the injustice of identifying yourself when voting.

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