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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    You are ignoring the elderly, which show up in higher numbers to vote than other age groups. They don't need jobs for the most part, they don't need ID to drink, many do not drive and many have never had to have ID. Where is the voter fraud that requires we ask for ID?
    Many elderly do drive and many elderly cash and write checks.There is no reason why someone can not get an ID even in states that have people pay for IDs.IDs are not expensive.Seeing how many elderly do not work they have time to obtain a birth certificate from their state of birth. The ACLU is full of **** on this one.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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    Guess who trained ACORN leaders and represented them in court? Guess who donated $ to ACORN?
    If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.

    When you have situations like this..

    Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee

    The 93-year-old Mitchell voted for the first time in 1931, soon after women gained the right to vote in the United States.

    "It meant a lot to me," said Mitchell.

    Mitchell worked as a maid cleaning the State Capitol, specifically the governor's office.

    She has known governors, legislators and council members personally for decades.

    This week Mitchell found out her old state ID with her picture on it is no longer enough to qualify her to vote.

    "When he told me I may be in this country illegally, I said I've been over here all my life," said Mitchell.

    The state's new voter ID law means Mitchell now needs a birth certificate to get a new picture ID.

    Mitchell was born in Stevenson, Ala., in 1918. She was delivered by a midwife and has never had a birth certificate.

    Her niece is not sure one even exists anymore.

    "She's worked here 30 years," said niece Beverly Jones. "I mean, she is 93. What more would they want?
    can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.

    When you have situations like this..

    Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee



    can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.
    If you want to argue that the types of ID accepted may make it unfair, your argument has merit. To me, this a totally different topic. Any photo ID that is good enough for a bank should be good enough to establish identification to vote.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Police can command you to identify youreself for no reason at all so I think presenting ID before you vote is going to stand up in court.
    Cops can demand ID, high court rules - politics - msnbc.com

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
    Why don't you care, thats the question.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
    Are you going to vote in the next election? If so you should care. We have to decide which crooked thieving lier is going to lead our nation for the next four years.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many elderly do drive and many elderly cash and write checks.There is no reason why someone can not get an ID even in states that have people pay for IDs.IDs are not expensive.Seeing how many elderly do not work they have time to obtain a birth certificate from their state of birth. The ACLU is full of **** on this one.
    It is not just the ACLU. The League of Women Voters of Wisconsin Education Network, Milwaukee branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty (oh, yeah -- homeless can't vote because they have no address to get an ID with).

    NBC Politics - In legislatures and courtrooms, busy weeks ahead for voter ID

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    I couldn't help but notice that you cut off the quote from the story just before the statement that the Governor is addressing the issue for the people that have been affected adversely.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.

    When you have situations like this..

    Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee



    can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.
    You're using individual cases where certain seniors are inconvenienced to justify accusations of broad, sweeping voter suppression. For the vast majority of Americans, a voter ID should not be a problematic request.

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