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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon
    Many local elections for everything from mayor to governor are within a few hundred votes , sometimes even less.
    And those elections are scrutinized thoroughly by both parties involved. Our system already provides a procedure to discover voter fraud. No need for any unnecessary hurdles. Voting should be made easier.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID. Many people who are poor, cannot get ID, etc...
    This is BS. I am about as poor as you can get outside of living on the streets and I still have a DL. And I don't know of a single old person that cannot get transportation to get an ID or to vote unless they are infirm, and even then there are options available for them.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88
    Sure, but I think that if anybody can pull off large scale vote fraud, it's the Democratic and Republican parties.
    I don't think anyone can pull it off. Remember, we're talking about in-person voter fraud. Large numbers of individuals. The phrase "Loose Lips, Sinks Ships" come to mind.
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    So the logistics of pulling off significant fraud are already pretty difficult.
    In-person, almost impossible.
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    Do you trust either party to tell you "We need this this law?"
    No one has demonstrated a necessity for this legislation.

    Voting should be made easier, not placing unnecessary hurdles.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    The state has a legitimate issue in curbing voter fraud. Voter fraud undermines our entire system.
    Voter fraud is a non-issue in this country. It's as common as hens teeth. So why put millions of people to unnecessary trouble?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    One that lives by a double standard is a hypocrite.
    Are we taking turns reading out of the dictionary or do you have a point?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Voter fraud is a non-issue in this country. It's as common as hens teeth. So why put millions of people to unnecessary trouble?
    As there are standards as to who is and is not eligible to vote, there should be standards applied to ENSURE that only eligible people vote. I don't think proving who you are is too much to ask. People have YEARS between presidential elections to make sure they have the proper ID. In many states, not having state issued ID is illegal- you can't even walk down the street in some states without an ID. Why should you be able to vote?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Florida has an ID law. Can someone that is saying that it is denying vast majority of poor and elderly to vote, please provide some statistics that support that case. Florida is loaded with elderly. If that case were true I'm sure that there would be somebody they would have a study that shows it..... please provide a link
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    How much does it cost to get a copy of one's birth certificate?
    Don't bring birth certificates into this. Obama showed everybody his, and we still hear the birther crap.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post

    No one has demonstrated a necessity for this legislation.

    Voting should be made easier, not placing unnecessary hurdles.
    Then we agree. We don't need this legislation.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Why should you be able to vote?
    Because it is the very essence of living in a representative democracy.
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