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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Broad sweeping voter suppression, the US has never needed these laws before. Voter suppression is nothing new. The voting system has innacuracies in the millions that have little to do with a sneaky illegal immigrant voting, the left doesn't need an illegal immigrant vote to win, let's not flatter ourselves. People bitch about having to sit at a DMV and Im certainly going to bitch about getting a voter ID if I have to. Coming from the side that sees government overreach as tyranny this is really charming.
    You have to get an registration card to vote anyway. People are going to decide not to because they get their picture taken also?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Why would it prevent a legal voter from voting? I'm looking for a legit arguement against this here.
    Is it really that hard to fathom? There are literally millions of Americans who don't have photo IDs. Many of them are elderly. Maybe it's not so easy for them to get around, or dig up the paperwork necessary to obtain a photo ID. Bottom line: photo ID laws DO prevent a lot of legal voters from voting. That's not something we have to puzzle over. Of course that's the PURPOSE of these laws: to prevent Democratic voters from casting ballots.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Is it really that hard to fathom? There are literally millions of Americans who don't have photo IDs. Many of them are elderly. Maybe it's not so easy for them to get around, or dig up the paperwork necessary to obtain a photo ID.
    They will soon be dead.

    Bottom line: photo ID laws DO prevent a lot of legal voters from voting. That's not something we have to puzzle over. Of course that's the PURPOSE of these laws: to prevent Democratic voters from casting ballots.
    Sorry, generic statements do not prove anything.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    You have to get an registration card to vote anyway.

    Then why do we need another ID?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID.
    How much does it cost to get a copy of one's birth certificate?
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    They will soon be dead.



    Sorry, generic statements do not prove anything.
    There's nothing generic about it. There have been many studies showing that these laws prevent lots of people from voting and there is no evidence that they serve an important purpose. There's a reason that they are always pushed by Republicans, and it has nothing to do with voter fraud.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Is it really that hard to fathom? There are literally millions of Americans who don't have photo IDs. Many of them are elderly. Maybe it's not so easy for them to get around, or dig up the paperwork necessary to obtain a photo ID. Bottom line: photo ID laws DO prevent a lot of legal voters from voting. That's not something we have to puzzle over. Of course that's the PURPOSE of these laws: to prevent Democratic voters from casting ballots.
    Maybe we could think of some way to make it easier to get a photo ID for those who cant get around. I dont know, maybe invent a cell phone that can take photos or something. You libs manage to get these people to the polls every two years, maybe you could actually pay some attention to them in the months between elections rather then just herd them like cattle to the polling booths to help perpetuate your wealth transfer schemes.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law - chicagotribune.com

    We have gone through so many years in the United States without Voter ID laws, and we now suddenly need them? Voter fraud is not something that is not common in the United States and this seems like an attempt to disenfranchise certain sets of voters.
    Yeah...Illegals.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    If not the ACLU then pick your source. Several other organizations have filed suit as well, people were turned away from the polls because they did not have ID. Some people cannot get ID because of lacking Birth Certificates for various reasons, lacking transportation to get somewhere to get ID, etc...
    Everyone that is in the US legally can get their BC's from their birth state and transportation no matter where they live.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    The state has a legitimate issue in curbing voter fraud. Voter fraud undermines our entire system.

    Of course the state can't use that legitimate issue to put a significant burden on voters that disenfranchises people needlessly. The question is does this policy put an undue burden on voters? I don't think so. Its something that a vast majority of people have already and those that don't have it can for the most part pretty easily obtain. A state ID or driver's lisence costs like five bucks and the government accepts various documents as proof of identity.

    Calling these laws akin to Jim Crow is insulting to anyone who had to live under Jim Crow. These laws affect all races. The fact that minorities or the elderly may be more likely to not have an ID is an irrelevant side issue.
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