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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, since no one is getting caught, that means no crime is being committed?
    Wait, were all supposed to fear an invisible crime that is there because YOU say its there?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How does producing an ID prevent illegal voting? Is it that hard to get a fake ID? Not the last time I checked.
    It's not supposed to prevent all illegal voting, it's supposed to make it a lot more difficult. If we insisted that IDs be 100% effective, we'd have done away with them altogether a long time ago.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Well, comparing this to Jim Crown is going to far. While it is extremely hard to get even a rough estimate of the voter fraud statistics.

    Just because the crime is not widely committed does not mean their should be some actions to stop it.

    I would suggest for states to allow multiple forms of I.D from birth certificates, driver licenses, bills and other articles of identification.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you support the law that says a person has to have a photo ID to buy a gun?
    I have not thought much about it.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Voter fraud is different than murder or arson where you have the evidence of a crime without a conviction. What evidence of a crime of voter fraud do you have without a conviction?
    The point is, if you are not required to prove you are who you say you are with a picture ID, it is impossible to prove whether or not fraud is occurring. If I show up at the polls and claim to be my brother and vote in his name, I have committed voter fraud, but no one will ever know. A picture ID is a way to insure that the honest voter is not being disenfranchised by the dishonest voter.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you support the law that says a person has to have a photo ID to buy a gun?
    You need to show an ID to vote at your polling place, you have to be registered. ANOTHER ID isnt necessary. How about we make gunowners get a federal ID to buy a gun.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The point is, if you are not required to prove you are who you say you are with a picture ID, it is impossible to prove whether or not fraud is occurring. If I show up at the polls and claim to be my brother and vote in his name, I have committed voter fraud, but no one will ever know. A picture ID is a way to insure that the honest voter is not being disenfranchised by the dishonest voter.
    It's a second ID, the idea that people just vote with a warm body and moving legs is absurd.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The point is, if you are not required to prove you are who you say you are with a picture ID, it is impossible to prove whether or not fraud is occurring. If I show up at the polls and claim to be my brother and vote in his name, I have committed voter fraud, but no one will ever know. A picture ID is a way to insure that the honest voter is not being disenfranchised by the dishonest voter.
    I have been voting for over forty years. Never once have I had to present any form of ID - picture or not - to vote. Not once. I am asked to fill out the form which includes my signature and address. They have a book with a copy of my registration form and they compare the two. Then I vote. I have never ever heard on accusation of voter fraud in any community I have ever voted in and followed these procedures.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    You need to show an ID to vote at your polling place, you have to be registered. ANOTHER ID isnt necessary. How about we make gunowners get a federal ID to buy a gun.
    No one is saying that voters should have to get a federal ID. Just use the same ID they used to register. It just ain't that difficult.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have not thought much about it.
    Might be a good time to start.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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