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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It is a violation of one's constitutional rights and the Voting Rights Act to prohibit a citizen from voting.
    Please quote the specific constituional provision that states anyone has a blanket right to vote. I'll help you out here: you can't do it because it doesn't exist. All it says is that no one can be denied the right to vote based on certain characteristics. But that's it.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No...what are you afraid will happen if people are actually *gasp* required to show identification before voting?
    The Libbos won't be able to make poor folks and minorities fear the mean ol, rich, white Conservatives.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Maybe it's not pc, but people who do not have the where-with-all to get some sort of ID to a polling station probably shouldn't be voting anyway. I would make an exception for the house-bound senior and handicapped.
    Those persons probably aren't registered to vote, anyway.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    In principal, ensuring that voting is honest and accurate is very important. And the theory that requiring voters to have IDs sounds like a good way to do that, in principal. Except that when actually implementing that, it just prevents legal voters from voting, and does little to stop fraudulent activity. ID requirements do not actually accomplish what proponents want them to do.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Many people, even if they do have an ID, don't have one that contains a current address. This is a bigger problem than you are trying to minimize it into.
    That's already illegal; not that it has jack to do with anything.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    In principal, ensuring that voting is honest and accurate is very important. And the theory that requiring voters to have IDs sounds like a good way to do that, in principal. Except that when actually implementing that, it just prevents legal voters from voting, and does little to stop fraudulent activity. ID requirements do not actually accomplish what proponents want them to do.
    How does it stop legal voters from voting? Surely, if they can produce an ID to register, they can produce an ID to vote.

    Other than Libbos taking advantage of the oppurtunity to call Conservatives racists, I'm not seeing the problem.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    The law curiously enough affects the poor exclusively. Class voter suppression.

    Next order of business please.
    Any proof of the law affecting the poor exclusively, or are you going to use individual cases to claim broad, sweeping "voter supression"?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How does it stop legal voters from voting? Surely, if they can produce an ID to register, they can produce an ID to vote.
    How does producing an ID prevent illegal voting? Is it that hard to get a fake ID? Not the last time I checked.

    Seriously, we need a whole series of 50 new laws (10th Amendment -- elections are run by states) to stop less than 1% of the vote? That's what voter fraud right now amounts to - usually a fraction of a percent. Talk about government overreach, I'd say that 50 laws that don't fix a non-problem is exactly that.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Still not satisfied?

    ST. PAUL, Minn., Oct. 13, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Minnesota Majority today released a report on voter fraud convictions to date stemming from Minnesota's 2008 general election. The report finds that 113 individuals who voted illegally in the 2008 election have been convicted of the crime, "ineligible voter knowingly votes" under Minnesota Statute 201.014.
    So you know how many votes were cast in Minnesota in 2008? 113 is significantly less than 1% of that number. While I'm sure you probably belived that they all were cast for Democrats, nobody else who isn't a blind partisan hack believes that voting irregularities only occur on one side of the aisle.


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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Any proof of the law affecting the poor exclusively, or are you going to use individual cases to claim broad, sweeping "voter supression"?
    Broad sweeping voter suppression, the US has never needed these laws before. Voter suppression is nothing new. The voting system has innacuracies in the millions that have little to do with a sneaky illegal immigrant voting, the left doesn't need an illegal immigrant vote to win, let's not flatter ourselves. People bitch about having to sit at a DMV and Im certainly going to bitch about getting a voter ID if I have to. Coming from the side that sees government overreach as tyranny this is really charming.

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