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Gay Texas Judge Refuses to Perform Marriage Ceremonies(edited)

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Ikari said:
I don't think she should be allowed to because she's a judge and needs to be impartial to the exercise of law. She cannot allow her own personal prejudices or ideals cloud her service to the People.
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She is being impartial. No marriages wether you are gay or straight, period.
 
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I can sort of understand both sides of it... I support the judge but I also want her to do her job. Think about all the straight people who have no real opinion on the gay marriage issue, but just want to get married. Why should they be dragged into the politics through no fault of their own?

I know... how about everyone just refuse to do their job anytime they want something? You know what that would get us? Just a higher unemployment number.

I don't think she should be fired because it takes a lot to become a judge, but her approach will likely backfire.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You probably can't fire her but come election time she will be history.
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I lean towards voting for her. And I live here in Texas. Where the judicial system has been abused to deny people rights and a "old boy network" has been used to the detriment of this great State.
 
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apdst said:
However, it's illegal for her to discriminate. Read the title of the thread:



Just like the JOP that refused to marry a mixed race couple. He was in violation of the law.
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The title was Mine. The actual article title does not define what type of marriage.

Whereas I can see you have a valid point, she still has my support. I am sure she knew the effect this would have on her career. She was willing to risk that career in order to make that stand. Our history is full of people that risked everything to promote a cause that they believed in very strongly. He stance on this issue may well lead to her dismissal and I am sure she is ready for it.
 
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Chiefgator said:
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I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
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As long as all judges get to follow their own conscience on this too, fine.,
 
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Goshin said:
As long as all judges get to follow their own conscience on this too, fine.,
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I disagree. Judges, like lawyers and doctors, have ethical canons and other job related mandates they must follow.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
Judges aren't elected.
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But judicial retention elections are held in some states. I think that's what he is referring to.
 
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Chiefgator said:
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I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
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Live at ten o clock news judge loses her job and the gay and tranny crowd on ABC other other homosexual propaganda channels make huge stink over this.
 
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I don't really have a problem with what she did. It's kind of a "now that the shoe is on the other foot" kinda deal. YMMV.
 
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For everyone who is saying that the judge isn't doing her job:

The Texas Committee on Judicial Ethics describes officiating at weddings as a "discretionary function” that must not interfere with “mandatory judicial duties," so Parker—who was elected in 2010 to preside over Dallas’ 116th Civil District Court—can't be accused of shirking her duties, notes the Dallas Morning News.
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Gay Texas Judge Refuses to Marry Straight Couples - No marriages until all can marry, says Tonya Parker
 
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katiegrrl0 said:
Since she is not required by law to hear any wedding what has she done wrong? It is her job to apply that specific law only if she wants. That's the law. So stuff the activist judge talk. If you knew what her job fully entailed maybe you wouldn't make such flagrant errors in your post.
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katiegrrl0 said:
What do you not understand about she is not required to preform any marriage. If Texas is not a same sex marriage state which it is not she cannot preform those. If she refuses to preside over heterosexual marriages she is presiding over no marriages. How is this discrimination? What don't you understand about such a simple fact. NOT REQUIRED by law to preside over any.
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katiegrrl0 said:
Yes if the law of the state said that judges were not required to preside over weddings. If the law required them to do so then I would have a problem.
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katiegrrl0 said:
She is not obligated by Texas law to preside over any wedding. Since there is no same sax marriage in Texas and she will not oversee heterosexual marriage she is not doing any. If she were required to preside over marriages it would be a different story. This is really a non news story.
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It gets frustrating sometimes, doesn't it? ;)

Especially when it's right there in the article itself.
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Parker wrote in an emailed statement that performing marriage ceremonies is not her duty as a judge, but, rather, "a right and privilege" that she chooses not to exercise.
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katiegrrl0 said:
Since she is not required by law to hear any wedding what has she done wrong? It is her job to apply that specific law only if she wants. That's the law. So stuff the activist judge talk. If you knew what her job fully entailed maybe you wouldn't make such flagrant errors in your post.
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This is not an error. There are many things that are left up to judicial discretion. When a judge uses that discretion to make a political statement, that is inappropriate. Regardless of whether it is legal or illegal (and I don't think I presented it as illegal in my previous post), it is inappropriate and outside of the scope of her duties. There is a difference in a legal opionion and a social opinion. When a judge uses his/her position of power to bolster or futher his/her social opinion, that is an activist judge.

A judge may only use the law i his/her decisions. They can support their opinion with precident and legislative intent, but Texas law is not unclear as to the definition of marraige. There is no argument that she can make in Texas, using the law that exists, or legislative intent, or precedent to defend her position that marriage should be extended to all people. It is simply her personal opinion.

I happen to be gay, and I support gay marriage. But it is not the job of the judge to help bring that about. Our system was set up with three branches for a reason- each independent of the other, and each with their own perogatives. The judiciary must make decisions interpreting existing law. They are not allowed to change laws or to make laws. Activist judges do not respect the boundaries between the branches and therefore do not have enough respect for the law to hold others accountable to it. It is a matter of appropriate actions, not of right or wrong.
 
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BWG said:
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It gets frustrating sometimes, doesn't it? ;)

Especially when it's right there in the article itself.
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Yes it does.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
I don't really have a problem with what she did. It's kind of a "now that the shoe is on the other foot" kinda deal. YMMV.
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You don't really have a problem with a hypocritcal double standard?
 
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apdst said:
You don't really have a problem with a hypocritcal double standard?
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I don't have a problem with her making a statement in this fashion. If someone treats you like ****, is it being a hypocrite to fight back and make a statement? :shrug: In any case, straight folks can still get married in Texas. Gays still can't.

I would summarize her position as a "welcome to my world" kinda deal. I have no problem with it.
 
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Chiefgator said:
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I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
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I denounce her for acting without and principle and putting her liberal, un-libertarian agenda above her job.
 
Chiefgator said:
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I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
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Just shows that liberals have no regard for the law they claim to serve unless it suits their agenda - and we're supposed to trust these liberal Supreme Court justices with our Constitution?
 
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StillBallin75 said:
I don't have a problem with her making a statement in this fashion. If someone treats you like ****, is it being a hypocrite to fight back and make a statement? :shrug: In any case, straight folks can still get married in Texas. Gays still can't.

I would summarize her position as a "welcome to my world" kinda deal. I have no problem with it.
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Well liberalism has no concept of morality, they're an "end justifies the means" kind of ideology. Gays have no right to be married and I'm fine with that. Liberal narcissists like her who have nothing better to do with their time but whine about how "persecuted" they are in the freest nation on earth have no credibility with me. I'll support gay marriage once women are allowed to serve in military combat roles. Women are over 51% of the population, gays are only about 5% - so I think this is a much more pressing "civil rights issue" than gay marriage.
 
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Texas judges aren't required to perform marriages. My concern is that if this judge is an activist on the bench on this issue, what other issues is she being an activist on?
 
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nota bene said:
Texas judges aren't required to perform marriages. My concern is that if this judge is an activist on the bench on this issue, what other issues is she being an activist on?
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That's my point - liberals don't care, they just think the end justifies the means. They're so hell bent on this stupid gay marriage issue that there's nothing they won't do. That's how self-righteous they are - they think they're entitled to not have to play by the rules just because of how "right" they are.
 
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