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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    I don't really have a problem with what she did. It's kind of a "now that the shoe is on the other foot" kinda deal. YMMV.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    For everyone who is saying that the judge isn't doing her job:

    The Texas Committee on Judicial Ethics describes officiating at weddings as a "discretionary function” that must not interfere with “mandatory judicial duties," so Parker—who was elected in 2010 to preside over Dallas’ 116th Civil District Court—can't be accused of shirking her duties, notes the Dallas Morning News.
    Gay Texas Judge Refuses to Marry Straight Couples - No marriages until all can marry, says Tonya Parker
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    Since she is not required by law to hear any wedding what has she done wrong? It is her job to apply that specific law only if she wants. That's the law. So stuff the activist judge talk. If you knew what her job fully entailed maybe you wouldn't make such flagrant errors in your post.
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    What do you not understand about she is not required to preform any marriage. If Texas is not a same sex marriage state which it is not she cannot preform those. If she refuses to preside over heterosexual marriages she is presiding over no marriages. How is this discrimination? What don't you understand about such a simple fact. NOT REQUIRED by law to preside over any.
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    Yes if the law of the state said that judges were not required to preside over weddings. If the law required them to do so then I would have a problem.
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    She is not obligated by Texas law to preside over any wedding. Since there is no same sax marriage in Texas and she will not oversee heterosexual marriage she is not doing any. If she were required to preside over marriages it would be a different story. This is really a non news story.

    It gets frustrating sometimes, doesn't it?

    Especially when it's right there in the article itself.
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    Parker wrote in an emailed statement that performing marriage ceremonies is not her duty as a judge, but, rather, "a right and privilege" that she chooses not to exercise.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Since she is not required by law to hear any wedding what has she done wrong? It is her job to apply that specific law only if she wants. That's the law. So stuff the activist judge talk. If you knew what her job fully entailed maybe you wouldn't make such flagrant errors in your post.
    This is not an error. There are many things that are left up to judicial discretion. When a judge uses that discretion to make a political statement, that is inappropriate. Regardless of whether it is legal or illegal (and I don't think I presented it as illegal in my previous post), it is inappropriate and outside of the scope of her duties. There is a difference in a legal opionion and a social opinion. When a judge uses his/her position of power to bolster or futher his/her social opinion, that is an activist judge.

    A judge may only use the law i his/her decisions. They can support their opinion with precident and legislative intent, but Texas law is not unclear as to the definition of marraige. There is no argument that she can make in Texas, using the law that exists, or legislative intent, or precedent to defend her position that marriage should be extended to all people. It is simply her personal opinion.

    I happen to be gay, and I support gay marriage. But it is not the job of the judge to help bring that about. Our system was set up with three branches for a reason- each independent of the other, and each with their own perogatives. The judiciary must make decisions interpreting existing law. They are not allowed to change laws or to make laws. Activist judges do not respect the boundaries between the branches and therefore do not have enough respect for the law to hold others accountable to it. It is a matter of appropriate actions, not of right or wrong.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    It gets frustrating sometimes, doesn't it?

    Especially when it's right there in the article itself.
    Yes it does.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't really have a problem with what she did. It's kind of a "now that the shoe is on the other foot" kinda deal. YMMV.
    You don't really have a problem with a hypocritcal double standard?
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    Ok, so I missed that part of the rules......
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't really have a problem with a hypocritcal double standard?
    I don't have a problem with her making a statement in this fashion. If someone treats you like ****, is it being a hypocrite to fight back and make a statement? In any case, straight folks can still get married in Texas. Gays still can't.

    I would summarize her position as a "welcome to my world" kinda deal. I have no problem with it.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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