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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    And again Judges are elected in Texas. It is up to the people to vote her out.
    I'm not arguing that point. I'm saying that her decision should lead to her dismissal. There is no point in keeping a civil servant who is hostile to performing their job particularly when it comes to base rights such as contract.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If the government is not held to the just and rightful demands of the People, then we are in deep ****.
    I don't think that any particular judge is required to do marriage ceremonies (though I may be wrong; that's a typical thing, but I don't know TX law). She's not doing any.

    Now, if she were in a jurisdiction which has both SSM and straight marriage, and she did SSM ceremonies but refused to do straight marriage ceremonies, then there'd be a far stronger claim against her.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't think that any particular judge is required to do marriage ceremonies (though I may be wrong; that's a typical thing, but I don't know TX law). She's not doing any.

    Now, if she were in a jurisdiction which has both SSM and straight marriage, and she did SSM ceremonies but refused to do straight marriage ceremonies, then there'd be a far stronger claim against her.
    It is her job to issue the contract. It was rightfully and legally requested. She denied it. End of story. The government must not be allowed to insert personal bias in the execution of law. If she cannot be impartial, than she cannot be a judge. That's it.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can judges really refuse that sort of thing? They're civil servants. I have problem with religious leaders refusing their particular service to people, but the government shouldn't be allowed to do so.
    According to what I've read, Texas law does not require any judge to perform weddings at all.


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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    According to what I've read, Texas law does not require any judge to perform weddings at all.
    I don't want my civil servants with the ability to use their personal bias to influence the execution of law. That's it. Some of y'all may be ok with it; that's fine. I ain't. My comments stand.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is her job to issue the contract.
    I don't think that's correct.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.

    She should have talked some of her straight colleagues into doing the same. Although judges perform ceremonies as a side service, not an official duty. Just like boat captains.

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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    How does one fire an elected official? Impeachment maybe but firing/ NO.
    That should be done. If the judge didn't like the fact that Texas does not allow gay marriage, then she should write her congresscritter, participate in protests, or use other lawful means. But to refuse to do the job she was elected to do means that she violated her oath of office, and she should be removed by whatever means are available under the law.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
    I guess discrimination is ok...when it's discrimination that we agree with.
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    Re: Gay judge refuses to perform Straight weddings

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    I applaud this woman for standing up for her principles.
    I am a big supporter of the right to same sex marriages but I disagree with this judge. Why would she want to punish couples who want to get married in her court by refusing them and thus discriminating them for their sexual preferance?

    If discriminating against people for their sexual orientation is wrong then it is wrong in all situations. Discriminating against straights is just as wrong as discriminating against gays.

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