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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Aren't politics based on real life situations? Why would a real-life situation not spark political comments...on a political debate site? I'll never understand people who think that tragic situations ought to be immune to political commentary. Many political positions stem from knowledge of such situations.
    Sorry man...dancing in the blood of a wounded child to further your politic agenda is chicken ****. You suggest a trigger lock law is going to make a difference to a mother that has a demonstrated lifetime history of not giving a damn about laws. Sorry...that's just using a wounded child (man...imagine the mileage this could have got if she died? Damn the bad luck) to push an agenda. Thats pathetic.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry man...dancing in the blood of a wounded child to further your politic agenda is chicken ****. You suggest a trigger lock law is going to make a difference to a mother that has a demonstrated lifetime history of not giving a damn about laws...
    its not about following the law.

    its about protecting your children.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry man...dancing in the blood of a wounded child to further your politic agenda is chicken ****. You suggest a trigger lock law is going to make a difference to a mother that has a demonstrated lifetime history of not giving a damn about laws. Sorry...that's just using a wounded child (man...imagine the mileage this could have got if she died? Damn the bad luck) to push an agenda. Thats pathetic.
    Nope, not pathetic. Where do you think people's political opinion's come from? They come from real-life situations. It makes absolutely zero sense to argue that people shouldn't use real life situations like this as evidence to support their political points, especially on a political debate site. Moreover, if people look at situations like this and think certain laws can prevent them, then by all means they should make their points. If you disagree, make yours. I actually think your argument is just a pathetic tactic to shout down people you disagree with.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Youíre still putting words in my mouth to further your personal bias. I didnít say at any point that a trigger lock was not a good way to secure a firearm (I own and use trigger locks, btw) As a simple aside to my main point I only pointed out that a trigger lock effectively defeats the purpose of a defensive weapon. It was an afterthought, if you will, to Thunderís assertion that guns should have trigger locks. The main point was the criminal history of the boyís mother. Why is this so upsetting to you?
    It's not. I called your comment a dumbass remark. I stand by it. Why does that upset you so much?

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its not about following the law.

    its about protecting your children.
    My children are better protected when my gun is ready to defend them. Criminals do criminal things. More legislation is not going to change that, and a trigger lock is really just a feel-good measure that is no substitute for parents who set good examples for their children by following the law to the best of their ability and teaching their children proper safety around things like firearms, automobiles, power tools and household cleaners.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what we do know is that the gun went off while in his backpack, right? seems to me that a nine year old should be given the benefit of the doubt here.
    Why should he be given the benefit of the doubt? He brought the gun to school. That's not a normal thing to do. If he were at home and it accidentally when off when he was playing with it, sure, but not when he made a decision to take it out of his home and bring it around other people.

    In the end, we know nothing about his intentions. He either intended to harm people or he didn't. I'd rather get all the information before drawing conclusions. That always seems to be the smart thing to do.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You'll notice that's not a normal orange shirt he's wearing. It's inmate clothing. Unreal.
    Why's that unreal? It's worn for a reason -all juvenile offenders wear it no matter what they've done.

    If the boy is found guilty of the charges, he could be ordered to spend up to 30 days in juvenile detention and 12 months on the juvenile version of probation and to perform 150 hours of community service.
    Doesn't sound like it's going to be too harsh considering he could have killed the little girl.

    I think it's suitable and will have him rethink his entire life and how he handles things.

    This has also established that his mother is a piece of **** and once she's no longer in his life she won't continue to taint him with her bull****.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

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    Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'[/url]


    Yes taking a gun to school is a bad idea. At least he should have turned the safety on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its not about following the law.

    its about protecting your children.
    Good lord you CAN'T be as dense as you present yourself. It's just not possible. Laws are meaningless to those who will not follow them.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Good lord you CAN'T be as dense as you present yourself. It's just not possible. Laws are meaningless to those who will not follow them.
    Yes - obviously the mothe rdoesn't have a single braincell left in her head after all that meth she's done.

    I'd be surprised if it was a legal firearm at all.
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