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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That dumbass remark was the comment that got the reaction. I specifically pointed that out. Funny how you left that out when you acted butthurt. Hypocrisy knows no bounds with you it appears.

    The salient point was, whether it is a trigger lock, a safe or some other method of securing that gun, it didn't happen. To suggest that a trigger lock is useless is typical NRA nonsense.
    You’re still putting words in my mouth to further your personal bias. I didn’t say at any point that a trigger lock was not a good way to secure a firearm (I own and use trigger locks, btw) As a simple aside to my main point I only pointed out that a trigger lock effectively defeats the purpose of a defensive weapon. It was an afterthought, if you will, to Thunder’s assertion that guns should have trigger locks. The main point was the criminal history of the boy’s mother. Why is this so upsetting to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I did, and you clearly have no idea what hoplophobia means.
    Oh, please, educate me then. Let’s hear your spin. This ought to be entertaining.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    ...Oh, please, educate me then. Let’s hear your spin. This ought to be entertaining.
    Hoplophobia= fear of firearms, fear of weapons.

    and clearly I, am no hoplophobe.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    The boy belongs in a state mental facility until the age of 18. 9 years old or not, you don't bring guns to school. Why is the mother being blame? Did she give her son the gun and told him to take it to school?

    Also if the little girl who got shot and her parents are illegal, they deserve no civil suites because she'd still be alive and well if they didn't sneak into the our country. It's bad enough that tax payers are footing the hospital bills.
    no he does not, period. that will ruin him.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Priceless.
    I know, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    trigger locks are simple common sense. they prevent kids or thieves from using your gun.
    You realize that you can remove a trigger lock with a good hammer, right? Do thieves not have opposable thumbs in your world?
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Hoplophobia= fear of firearms, fear of weapons.

    and clearly I, am no hoplophobe.
    So, your argument is that since you’re only afraid of handguns, you don’t actually have a fear of weapons? That makes sense and we're on the same page now, because I’m only afraid of Black Widows, but I’m not afraid of spiders…
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I don't recall anyone suggesting he's harmless.
    Nobody said it, but there are several posts that readily state the kid just made a mistake and that he should just go home and only the mother should be charged. The implication of all those posts is that the kid is harmless - why else would people say he just made a mistake and shouldn't be in jail? If such posters didn't think the kid was harmless, then they would want him to stay in jail and they wouldn't say he just made a mistake.

    Although most indications suggest he may well be.
    Nobody knows why he brought the gun and what he intended to do with it. So it looks like most indications point to "we have no idea if he's harmless".

    Are you suggesting the Mother shouldn't be held responsible for leaving a loaded gun where a child could get ahold of it? Really?
    Nope.

    We don't know that. But we also don't know if he was just taking it with him because he planned to run away. Seriously, the crimes of other children, especially murder do happen, but they are exceedingly rare.
    My point is that we don't know and since we don't know, it makes zero sense to come to some of the conclusions being made in the thread.

    So throw him in jail until he turns 18. That will fix him. argh.
    I never said that. In fact, I didn't make any conclusions about what should happen. I said, "I have a lot of questions concerning the kid," which I think is the smartest thing to say when we have hardly any information. It's a lot smarter than saying, "just send the kid home, he made a mistake", when no one has any idea what his intentions were.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    So, your argument is that since you’re only afraid of handguns…
    I am not AFRAID...of handguns.

    I have many weapons at home, and am scheduled to go skeet shooting in a few weeks along with going to a rifle range sometime this spring.

    now....back to the topic? or do you wanna focus on me.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    now....back to the topic? or do you wanna focus on me.
    Hey, you started it, chum. If you're ready to call a truce, we can hug and make up.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nobody said it, but there are several posts that readily state the kid just made a mistake and that he should just go home and only the mother should be charged. The implication of all those posts is that the kid is harmless - why else would people say he just made a mistake and shouldn't be in jail? If such posters didn't think the kid was harmless, then they would want him to stay in jail and they wouldn't say he just made a mistake.


    Nobody knows why he brought the gun and what he intended to do with it. So it looks like most indications point to "we have no idea if he's harmless".


    Nope.


    My point is that we don't know and since we don't know, it makes zero sense to come to some of the conclusions being made in the thread.


    I never said that. In fact, I didn't make any conclusions about what should happen. I said, "I have a lot of questions concerning the kid," which I think is the smartest thing to say when we have hardly any information. It's a lot smarter than saying, "just send the kid home, he made a mistake", when no one has any idea what his intentions were.
    what we do know is that the gun went off while in his backpack, right? seems to me that a nine year old should be given the benefit of the doubt here.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Even back at the age of 9 or younger, I knew it would be wrong and INSANE to bring a gun to school. Whether he meant to for show and tell or to shoot someone is irrelevant. He blengs in a mental institute till the age of 18. When he's 18, he's entitled to a review.
    With the best will in the world, you didn't. You couldn't, since impulse control is not gained until well into the teens. The age of criminal responsibility in Scotland is early, and that's set at twelve. Children under that age cannot be held criminally liable.
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