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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how hard is it to put a damn trigger lock on a gun???????????

    such an easy step, and it saves lives.
    Seeing as how the mother was a convicted felon, she shouldn't even have access to a gun. If she wouldn't follow the law preventing her from owning a gun, what makes you think she would follow a law that required a trigger lock?

    Btw, a defensive firearm with a trigger lock is exactly worthless.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Seeing as how the mother was a convicted felon, she shouldn't even have access to a gun. If she wouldn't follow the law preventing her from owning a gun, what makes you think she would follow a law that required a trigger lock?

    Btw, a defensive firearm with a trigger lock is exactly worthless.
    Tell that to the family of the little girl. That gun was loaded, possibly left with the safety off and left exposed. Absolute idiocy. Go ahead, toss the 2nd amendment at me...

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    ...Btw, a defensive firearm with a trigger lock is exactly worthless.
    right, keep your guns in the house around the kids, without a trigger lock.

    that's pure genius.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to come along and take a tragic situation and make a political comment about it. I figured for that kind of a dickhead move it would take 40...maybe 50 posts. Shoulda known better...
    Aren't politics based on real life situations? Why would a real-life situation not spark political comments...on a political debate site? I'll never understand people who think that tragic situations ought to be immune to political commentary. Many political positions stem from knowledge of such situations.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Tell that to the family of the little girl. That gun was loaded, possibly left with the safety off and left exposed. Absolute idiocy. Go ahead, toss the 2nd amendment at me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    right, keep your guns in the house around the kids, without a trigger lock.

    that's pure genius.
    Both of you are putting words in my mouth, and demonstrably have little to no knowledge of firearms. At no point did I suggest that loaded firearms be left unsecured… I merely pointed out that a convicted felon is not likely to be too concerned with following the law. Please do your best to keep your hoplophobic biases in check.

    Btw, there are loaded weapons without safties around my two small children 24 hours a day and neither have managed to pick one up, much less take it anywhere. Are you horrified now? Am I an irresponsible parent or what?
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie1 View Post
    I agree, locking up a 9 year old is pointless. Lots of mandated counseling, etc. is needed. And yes, the family of the girl will likely sue, as she's still fighting for her life at this time, and they will have huge medical bills.
    But the adult that owned that gun should take that childs place in jail. If gun owners aren't responsible for taking care of their weapons then why should they care if a child shoots someone?

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Seeing as how the mother was a convicted felon, she shouldn't even have access to a gun. If she wouldn't follow the law preventing her from owning a gun, what makes you think she would follow a law that required a trigger lock?

    Btw, a defensive firearm with a trigger lock is exactly worthless.
    Why? You can still shoot yourself in the head and that's the most common use for a handgun isn't it?

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Both of you are putting words in my mouth, and demonstrably have little to no knowledge of firearms. At no point did I suggest that loaded firearms be left unsecured… I merely pointed out that a convicted felon is not likely to be too concerned with following the law.
    Umm no. What you said was this.

    Originally Posted by theangryamerican
    ...Btw, a defensive firearm with a trigger lock is exactly worthless.
    That was the dumbass comment that got a reaction.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post

    Local News | Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake' | Seattle Times Newspaper

    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms. This whole thing is sickening. And obviously the Mother will get sued at the very least in a civil suit. But I am at a total loss to understand how prosecuting this 9 year old boy, AND keeping him from his custodial parent is a good idea in the wake of this tragic accident.

    Putting a 9 year old boy in jail accomplishes what here?
    Well, why did he bring the gun to school? Was he planning on shooting or threatening somebody? Or was he just bringing it for run?

    It's odd to me how many people in this thread think the kid is totally harmless and it's the mother who should be in jail. Are we forgetting that children have, in fact, committed crimes and killed others? How do we know he wouldn't have done that later if the gun hadn't gone off?

    Obviously the parents are irresponsible, but I still have a lot of questions concerning the kid.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post

    That was the dumbass comment that got a reaction.
    Sadly, that "dumbass comment" is completely true. You're either just too uninformed or biased to acknowledge it. There are plenty of ways to render a defensive firearm secure without bolting a lock through the trigger. Sorry.

    The way that you clipped out the body of my message and choose to attack one sentence was quite artful though.
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