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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - then you're just not realizing that if you just create a situation in which someone is harmed then you can be held at fault.
    Indeed, you can be. Which is why I've repeatedly said she should be held financially responsible; that's being held at fault. But criminally? Not unless you can demonstrate some form of gross misconduct which is not necessarily demonstrated through some kid getting a gun. You gots the proof?
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed, you can be. Which is why I've repeatedly said she should be held financially responsible; that's being held at fault. But criminally? Not unless you can demonstrate some form of gross misconduct which is not necessarily demonstrated through some kid getting a gun. You gots the proof?
    illegally owning a firearm when you're not suppose to - I believe that's ground for gross misconduct indeed.

    If she legally owned the firearm, instilled values of 'it's not a toy' and such: I wouldn't hold this view. . . this is purely based on her as a person, a mother, and how she's incapable.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Since much of this thread is speculation, let me throw out another speculative position.

    First, what we do know from the article is:

    He didn't show the gun or tell anyone about it. That rules out show and tell.
    He didn't brag about having the gun. That rules out bragging rights.
    He did not shoot, or threaten to shoot, anyone. That rules out any revenge or desire to hurt anyone at the school.

    In fact, apparently no one knew that the gun was in his back pack until it went off. (Why it went off unassisted in a back pack is another matter for conjecture)

    Therefore, it is just possible that the kid was expecting trouble on the way home or at home. With the track record of the mother and father, it seems to me like this is entirely possible.

    No parent with a history of drug and other abuses, or with a history of violence, failure to pay child support, and various other violations, to a degree that removes the child into alternative custody, should have visitation rights without supervision, if at all.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

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    Local News | Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake' | Seattle Times Newspaper

    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms. This whole thing is sickening. And obviously the Mother will get sued at the very least in a civil suit. But I am at a total loss to understand how prosecuting this 9 year old boy, AND keeping him from his custodial parent is a good idea in the wake of this tragic accident.

    Putting a 9 year old boy in jail accomplishes what here?
    Of course, YOU would be. Any excuse at all to infringe is a good excuse. Let's violate the 2nd Amendment to fix a problem with the mother.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Of course, YOU would be. Any excuse at all to infringe is a good excuse. Let's violate the 2nd Amendment to fix a problem with the mother.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    You guys realize that with rights, comes responsibilities, right?
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    You guys realize that with rights, comes responsibilities, right?
    Absolutely, the child's mom was an unfit parent, criminal, and in possession of a firearm. Her probation officer shouldn't even be a fertile egg right now and she should be held completely responsible for this.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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