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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    I’m still waiting for you to put forward a common sense law…

    This is precisely what I was referring to when i suggested that it is impossible to have a rational conversation with a gun nut. Up is down, in is out.




    Wait, let me get a handle on this logic. Cars kill 150% more people than firearms, but a gun is more lethal, in you opinion? A gunshot wound is fatal less than half the time, despite what you saw on CSI this week, but because a car is presumably built with a “less lethal” purpose, it’s not as dangerous as a firearm?

    Really? THIS is your argument? I feel like I am chatting with a middle schooler here. The inane analogy is so full of holes I have no idea where to begin.


    In the average week, how many times do you discharge your firearm? And how much time do you spend behind the wheel, let along the number of times you fire up your car? And how many people are exposed to harm by being somwhere near your car versus your firearm/ I mean c'mon. Really?





    I’ll take your concession here, since you refused to address the point.

    I got your concession hanging Skippy.




    I’ll take your bait, how would a licensing process like what one goes through for a vehicle have kept this kid from taking a gun to school?
    I never claimed that it would. In fact i suggested otherwise.


    Honestly, I think it would be hilarious if guns had the same licensing process as cars.
    Considering how inane several of your comments were I'm not at all surprised.
    No one of any age would need a permit or training to own and operate a gun on private property.

    Now we're moving into predicting the future? Quite a talent.





    All this for a 30 minute range test and a couple multiple choice questions to get licensed? Maybe you’re on to something here… or maybe you just haven’t thought this through, like the rest of your argument.
    Thanks for putting all kinds of delusions into my supposed argument. Are you done with this little play act yet? I'm still laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    For someone who claims to have run a Juvi center you're either completely out of touch with reality or full of BS. Juvi is jail to a 9 year old. To suggest otherwise is turd polish.
    Son, you know precisely jack and ****. Juvenile detention has a ton of different facets. There are different wards, different populations, multiple different levels of care. Come back and talk to me after you have the first ****ing clue. Or at least after you get out of high school and your moms basement.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Son, you know precisely jack and ****. Juvenile detention has a ton of different facets. There are different wards, different populations, multiple different levels of care. Come back and talk to me after you have the first ****ing clue. Or at least after you get out of high school and your moms basement.
    you suggest that a 9 year old child can discern the difference? Really? And you expect anyone to take you seriously? Keep em comin Shecky. I got your son by the way.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

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    Local News | Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake' | Seattle Times Newspaper

    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms. This whole thing is sickening. And obviously the Mother will get sued at the very least in a civil suit. But I am at a total loss to understand how prosecuting this 9 year old boy, AND keeping him from his custodial parent is a good idea in the wake of this tragic accident.

    Putting a 9 year old boy in jail accomplishes what here?

    there are more than enough gun control laws. It seems that the liberals default position is punishing everyone else due to the stupidity of someone who violated a law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    you suggest that a 9 year old child can discern the difference? Really? And you expect anyone to take you seriously? Keep em comin Shecky. I got your son by the way.
    Like I said...you don't know **** about ****. Yes...9 year olds are perfectly capable of comprehending what and why they are there. In most juvenile facilities they have staffed case workers (not prison guards) workin with the youth. They conduct individual meetings as well as group in addition to attending school. You havent the first clue. But then...why should you. Life is pretty sweet living off mommy.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Like I said...you don't know **** about ****. Yes...9 year olds are perfectly capable of comprehending what and why they are there. In most juvenile facilities they have staffed case workers (not prison guards) workin with the youth. They conduct individual meetings as well as group in addition to attending school. You havent the first clue. But then...why should you. Life is pretty sweet living off mommy.

    My now 14 year old starting training with a 22 caliber Walther P-22 at age 7 or 8. He damn well knows not to bring a gun to school and he knew that within 5 minutes of starting training. And the blame the gun crowd are tiresome and silly

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    'Jail' (Juvenile Detention) may be the best thing for this kid considering his family circumstances. AT least in detention he would get mandated access to counseling and therapy.

    From the story...

    If the boy is found guilty of the charges, he could be ordered to spend up to 30 days in juvenile detention and 12 months on the juvenile version of probation and to perform 150 hours of community service.
    A capacity hearing will be held in two weeks to determine if the charges will ultimately proceed. Under state law, children between 8 and 12 years old can face charges if a court determines the child has the capacity to understand an act is wrong."

    His family history...


    "When he was 2 , police found methamphetamine and syringes in his mother's belongings, court documents say. Later that same month, Chaffin was charged with forgery after trying to cash stolen checks. She was later convicted. When he was 3 , Chaffin was charged with selling marijuana out of a Kitsap motel. By this point, she had four children, according to court records. Meanwhile, Jason Cochran was convicted of domestic violence for assaulting Chaffin. He later violated the protection order. He repeatedly failed to pay child support and was held in contempt. Three or four years ago, they both relinquished their parental rights"

    Tragic situation...
    This poor child never had a chance. Bless his little heart.

    The child's situation is tragic. Using a child's tragedy for political points is a travesty. For shame... and y'all know who you are.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there are more than enough gun control laws. It seems that the liberals default position is punishing everyone else due to the stupidity of someone who violated a law.
    Have you read this thread? Clearly not. So here, let me generalize. Just like righties to walk into a room blind and assume they have a clue.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This poor child never had a chance. Bless his little heart.

    The child's situation is tragic. Using a child's tragedy for political points is a travesty. For shame... and y'all know who you are.
    sometimes I think rather than people passing background checks to own guns, we'd solve more problems by requiring one before people are allowed to breed

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Have you read this thread? Clearly not. So here, let me generalize. Just like righties to walk into a room blind and assume they have a clue.
    OH TELL ME "WISE" ONE what did you say in the opening post

    Oh Here it is

    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms.

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