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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what we do know is that the gun went off while in his backpack, right? seems to me that a nine year old should be given the benefit of the doubt here.
    I think the kid gets the benefit of the doubt. However he will need counseling IMO for a myriad of reasons most of all he could be at risk for PTSD, no rational or sane human being wants to kill anyone or harm them grievously and as well with counseling he can have a rundown on why this happened and what can be done to come to terms with it and learn a VERY important lesson. The mother belongs in the slammer for child neglect, and felon in possession.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Why should he be given the benefit of the doubt? He brought the gun to school. That's not a normal thing to do. If he were at home and it accidentally when off when he was playing with it, sure, but not when he made a decision to take it out of his home and bring it around other people.

    In the end, we know nothing about his intentions. He either intended to harm people or he didn't. I'd rather get all the information before drawing conclusions. That always seems to be the smart thing to do.
    There are tons of stories about kids bringing guns to school, sometimes at younger ages than this child. In fact when my older cousins went to HS they attended with a bunch of people who kept shotguns in their trucks to go hunting after class. They don't allow it at that school anymore but that used to be a common sight.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - obviously the mothe rdoesn't have a single braincell left in her head after all that meth she's done.

    I'd be surprised if it was a legal firearm at all.
    Not legal by any means. She had prior drug related convictions thus couldn't own a gun due to felony statutes passed in the nineties.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It was a valid point.

    Depending on this boy's history, he may not belong in detention at all. Nine-year-old boys do stupid things. I do wonder how in the world a gun would go off in a backpack, but that's why things like that are called accidents.
    First rule of carry, secure the weapon. Depending on what model firearm the .45 was it could have had a more slack trigger where a light bump could fire it. Some models have less than adequate safeties, etc. There are a million factors that could have contributed to a loosely carried gun neglegently discharging.

    His life should not be ruined because of a mistake if there is no prior history of bad behavior. I agree with the poster who said, "Let the boy go home to dad, and put the mom in jail."
    I don't think the entire book should be thrown at the kid, but it wouldn't be terrible for him to experience mild legal consequence for this. Sometimes mistakes are the best teachers. Though I don't want that innocent little girl to lose her life over that, hopefully she pulls through.
    If, however, he does have a history of bad behavior -- out of the norm stuff -- then I think detention and counseling is the exact right thing.
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    right, keep your guns in the house around the kids, without a trigger lock.

    that's pure genius.

    I raised a child. I never used trigger locks. Guns were locked in my gun cabinet unless they were on my person or under my direct control, until my son was old enough to be trusted around unsecured firearms.

    We're talking about a crackhead mom here.... trigger lock laws aren't going to faze her, she was already ignoring a law that she wasn't to have any guns already.

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

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    Local News | Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake' | Seattle Times Newspaper

    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms. This whole thing is sickening. And obviously the Mother will get sued at the very least in a civil suit. But I am at a total loss to understand how prosecuting this 9 year old boy, AND keeping him from his custodial parent is a good idea in the wake of this tragic accident.

    Putting a 9 year old boy in jail accomplishes what here?
    At least he's being prosecuted as a juvenile. His actions did lead to the severe injury of another, and for that there are legal repercussions. He likely didn't mean to do so, was being a dumb kid as kids oft do. The punishment shouldn't be too heavy handed because this was an accident; but there needs to be punishment in general. Locking him up, probably not so much.

    The mother I don't think should be legally liable for the actions of the kid; but she should be financially liable (i.e. civil court).
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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I'm the first one here to suggest that there be tighter controls on firearms.
    Hitler and Stalin got tough on guns after they got in power. You're in good company. Surely the prohibition of alcohol worked. In fact it really made the mob a lot of money. Is the war on drugs working?

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The mother I don't think should be legally liable for the actions of the kid; but she should be financially liable (i.e. civil court).
    You gotta ****tin me? She leaves a loaded gun where a child can get to it and she shouldn't be held liable?

    WTF?

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

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    Re: Father says son who took gun to school 'made a bad mistake'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You gotta ****tin me? She leaves a loaded gun where a child can get to it and she shouldn't be held liable?

    WTF?
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