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    Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

    Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill - The Washington Post

    Maryland will join seven states and the District in allowing same-sex marriage, ending a year-long drama in Annapolis over the legislation and expanding nationwide momentum for gay rights.

    The Senate passed the measure by a vote of 25 to 22 Thursday night, and Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) has vowed to sign it into law.

    To win some of the final votes needed for passage in the House of Delegates last week, backers agreed to conditions that could help opponents place the new law on the November ballot. With polls showing the Maryland electorate almost evenly split on the issue, a referendum all but promises another contentious battle before the issue is settled in the state.

    Ministers of several African American megachurches in Prince George’s County as well as conservative and Catholic groups have vowed to help repeal the measure.
    hell yeah.
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    Woot woot!

    It's only a matter of time before it's legal everywhere.
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    It's almost like another one every day.
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    Excellent! It's about time that the final vestige of legalized discrimination is being eliminated!

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    This is so great.

    It would be wonderful if I actually could be wrong on this issue, and the people/legislature actually do decide this issue rather than the courts. I highly doubt the final decision, along with the last vestiges of discrimination against same sex couples won't come down to the SCOTUS, but I would definitely be very happy to stand corrected.
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    Re: Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill - The Washington Post

    Ministers of several African American megachurches in Prince George’s County as well as conservative and Catholic groups have vowed to help repeal the measure.


    hell yeah.
    It is still you the people, right (I can't say we because I am not an American).

    In the Netherlands gays have had the right to marry for 10 years, here the church has little or no say in it because in the Netherlands church/religious weddings and the actual wedding are 2 totally different things. You have to be married in city hall (by a civil servant) before you can (if you want because only the city hall wedding is actually a legal wedding ceremony) marry in church/temple/mosque.

    And if people say civilisation is going to collapse etc. are wrong, we are still going strong as ever.

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    Re: Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    It is still you the people, right (I can't say we because I am not an American).

    In the Netherlands gays have had the right to marry for 10 years, here the church has little or no say in it because in the Netherlands church/religious weddings and the actual wedding are 2 totally different things. You have to be married in city hall (by a civil servant) before you can (if you want because only the city hall wedding is actually a legal wedding ceremony) marry in church/temple/mosque.

    And if people say civilisation is going to collapse etc. are wrong, we are still going strong as ever.
    The problem here is that some people can't seem to grasp that just because the preacher who performs your wedding ceremony can legally sign your marriage license, as a matter of convenience so that we don't have to pay a lot of government employees to do it for every single couple, doesn't make the civil marriage license a religious thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The problem here is that some people can't seem to grasp that just because the preacher who performs your wedding ceremony can legally sign your marriage license, as a matter of convenience so that we don't have to pay a lot of government employees to do it for every single couple, doesn't make the civil marriage license a religious thing.
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    Re: Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

    Another victory for the rights of our Gay and Lesbian, brothers and sisters.

    Inch by inch, state by state, country by country we must continue the fight until equal rights are granted.

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    Re: Maryland Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Another victory for the rights of our Gay and Lesbian, brothers and sisters.

    Inch by inch, state by state, country by country we must continue the fight until equal rights are granted.
    Yep, it's even more impressive that my state did it through the legislature rather than a court ruling.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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