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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    If its viewable from your window you don't have an expectation of privarcy.
    Can a police officer walk onto your property and look into your windows without knocking first? Also that's not what I was talking about, and I think you know it. Strange attitude coming from a supposed libertarian.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    A manned platform can't hover in front of my windows without me knowing about it, a small UAS can.
    A bug placed at the corner of your picture frame is also not easily seen. If you're worried extra-judicial practices, that can happen even without UAVs and probably more easily.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    A bug placed at the corner of your picture frame is also not easily seen. If you're worried extra-judicial practices, that can happen even without UAVs and probably more easily.
    So you're supporting an FAA regulation based on the possibility of bugs on a picture frames.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you're supporting an FAA regulation based on the possibility of bugs on a picture frames.
    I support because I do NOT consider a further invasion of personal rights. I support it because I think it will provide greater flexibility and faster intelligence for police looking for the real crooks. Operating these things, no matter how small cost money. So I don't see them used for randomly peeking into windows of citizens not involved in an investigation. Most likely, they'll be used to track crooks on the run who might have just robbed your house. I see UAVs as safety and a deterrent.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Manned platforms can be seen, unmanned platforms can become small enough so they can't be seen. Any questions?
    Trust me.... I do this for a living, you would never know I am there. That is exactly why it is illegal in the US without a warrant.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Consitutionally the only right to privacy you have is behind closed doors, curtians drawn, and windows shut.
    Constitutionally, privacy is not limited to physical privacy. IMO, your point is invalid because it ignores that there are many types of privacy - three being physical/action, state of mind/thought, and privacy of property/within property, the latter two of which very much apply outside your home, and the first one applying in many circumstances outside your home.

    The ignorance of the existence of the above invalidates your point to me at least.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    A manned platform can't hover in front of my windows without me knowing about it, a small UAS can.
    This is why the police helicopter thing is really a bogus comparison.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I support because I do NOT consider a further invasion of personal rights. I support it because I think it will provide greater flexibility and faster intelligence for police looking for the real crooks. Operating these things, no matter how small cost money. So I don't see them used for randomly peeking into windows of citizens not involved in an investigation. Most likely, they'll be used to track crooks on the run who might have just robbed your house. I see UAVs as safety and a deterrent.
    Apparently you'd support a bug stuck up your ass, if the government wanted it there.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Apparently you'd support a bug stuck up your ass, if the government wanted it there.
    Yeah, 'cause then I could **** on government property as much as I wanted.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is why the police helicopter thing is really a bogus comparison.
    I counter that it is an apt comparison because both require a warrant.
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