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US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

xpiher said:
If its viewable from your window you don't have an expectation of privarcy.
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Can a police officer walk onto your property and look into your windows without knocking first? Also that's not what I was talking about, and I think you know it. Strange attitude coming from a supposed libertarian.
 
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American said:
A manned platform can't hover in front of my windows without me knowing about it, a small UAS can.
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A bug placed at the corner of your picture frame is also not easily seen. If you're worried extra-judicial practices, that can happen even without UAVs and probably more easily.
 
EagleAye said:
A bug placed at the corner of your picture frame is also not easily seen. If you're worried extra-judicial practices, that can happen even without UAVs and probably more easily.
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So you're supporting an FAA regulation based on the possibility of bugs on a picture frames.
 
American said:
So you're supporting an FAA regulation based on the possibility of bugs on a picture frames.
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I support because I do NOT consider a further invasion of personal rights. I support it because I think it will provide greater flexibility and faster intelligence for police looking for the real crooks. Operating these things, no matter how small cost money. So I don't see them used for randomly peeking into windows of citizens not involved in an investigation. Most likely, they'll be used to track crooks on the run who might have just robbed your house. I see UAVs as safety and a deterrent.
 
American said:
Manned platforms can be seen, unmanned platforms can become small enough so they can't be seen. Any questions?
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Trust me.... I do this for a living, you would never know I am there. That is exactly why it is illegal in the US without a warrant.
 
xpiher said:
Consitutionally the only right to privacy you have is behind closed doors, curtians drawn, and windows shut.
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Constitutionally, privacy is not limited to physical privacy. IMO, your point is invalid because it ignores that there are many types of privacy - three being physical/action, state of mind/thought, and privacy of property/within property, the latter two of which very much apply outside your home, and the first one applying in many circumstances outside your home.

The ignorance of the existence of the above invalidates your point to me at least.
 
American said:
A manned platform can't hover in front of my windows without me knowing about it, a small UAS can.
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This is why the police helicopter thing is really a bogus comparison.
 
EagleAye said:
I support because I do NOT consider a further invasion of personal rights. I support it because I think it will provide greater flexibility and faster intelligence for police looking for the real crooks. Operating these things, no matter how small cost money. So I don't see them used for randomly peeking into windows of citizens not involved in an investigation. Most likely, they'll be used to track crooks on the run who might have just robbed your house. I see UAVs as safety and a deterrent.
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Apparently you'd support a bug stuck up your ass, if the government wanted it there.
 
American said:
Can a police officer walk onto your property and look into your windows without knocking first? Also that's not what I was talking about, and I think you know it. Strange attitude coming from a supposed libertarian.
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You seem to confuse believe/liking something with knowledge of how it actually is. And, if you don't have a privacy fence, then they don't have to walk up to your window to see
 
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