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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As I understand it (and I may be wrong) the FAA does not regulate hobbyist use of UAVs flying under 400', but they are close to imposing massive regulations on commercial use of UAV's in the same airspace. What's up with that?
    One thing I just noticed in this: The FAA Does in fact regulate hobbiest UAV flights below 400ft. They are restricted to certain areas... not within 3 miles of an airport without approval from said airport, must be outside of populated areas, must be aware of noise sensitive areas (schools, hospitals, etc).

    But, the only thing I can think of (without digging into the FAA regs) would be consistency. The FAA regulates the heck outta commercial aviation and is much more lenient on private aviation.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    We already have helicopters.
    Not a good example, you can hear and see a helicopter just fine. You know when a helicopter is above you, a drone, not so much. A drone is used for spying and taking down targets discretely. Putting drones into US airspace is like declaring a act of war on normal citizens as is many of todays laws that prohibit freedom. The judicial branch of our government has been an absolute failure to the United States for over 40 years now by not defending the constitution and making it work for the people.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
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    U.S. opening up airspace to use of drones - Technology & science - Science - DiscoveryNews.com - msnbc.com

    Well looks like another violation of our rights has come to pass. Between this and the Patriot Act I might as well just have the government set up video cameras in my house and backyard. This country continues to circle the drain each passing day. Are we people just going to keep taking the punishment?
    This will likely cause crashes of private aircraft.....

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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Not a good example, you can hear and see a helicopter just fine. You know when a helicopter is above you, a drone, not so much. A drone is used for spying and taking down targets discretely. Putting drones into US airspace is like declaring a act of war on normal citizens as is many of todays laws that prohibit freedom. The judicial branch of our government has been an absolute failure to the United States for over 40 years now by not defending the constitution and making it work for the people.
    I can promise you that I can see a whole lot more and have a much longer onstation time with my aircraft than any UAV that is approved for use over US airspace. My resolution is 5-10 times better. I have many different modes of operation that the small UAV cannot have due to weight. And trust me..... You would never I was there.

    THAT is exactly why it is illegal in the US. This change of regulation does nothing to change the law.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    This will likely cause crashes of private aircraft.....
    This I will certainly agree with. I DESPISE flying in an area with UAVs...
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    It's not a problem letting UAVs hover around in US airspace, right NOW, at this moment.

    All it takes, however, is Patriot Act 2 to pass, and voila, the individual building blocks being laid out all come together to make one solid structure.



    No one bill can enact a police state...it happens slowly, over time. You can't just drop a frog in a pot of boiling water...it'll try to jump out. BUT, you put a frog in warm water, and then, over a period of time, heat it up...and it'll never know what hit it. And that's what's happening here.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Consitutionally the only right to privacy you have is behind closed doors, curtians drawn, and windows shut. But big brother has been watching for 100s of years. The only difference is technology makes it easier
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    You are letting the word Drone add an element of fear to the equation. This does not allow anyone or anything the ability to spy on anyone.
    One of the main purposes of a drone is to attack,spy or both. They do not fly drones for the hell of it.

    All that this does is to allow for the airspace use by a remotely piloted vehicle.
    Why do they want to allow the airspace for the use of these drones? To spy on people. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a mini remote controlled helicopter or air plane can be very efficient at spying due to the fact people are less likely to notice them verses a large UAV or even a helicopter.
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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Consitutionally the only right to privacy you have is behind closed doors, curtians drawn, and windows shut. But big brother has been watching for 100s of years. The only difference is technology makes it easier

    You are sadly mistaken. It doesn't matter if its inside or outside your home.There is no "only applies on the inside of your home with the curtains closed" clause in the 4th amendment.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: US opens homeland airspace to use Drones

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are sadly mistaken. It doesn't matter if its inside or outside your home.There is no "only applies on the inside of your home with the curtains closed" clause in the 4th amendment.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    Sadly, I'm not mistaken. You only have a right to privacy where a reasonable expectation of privay exist. For instance, if a cop walks pass your house and sees you smoking pot inside your house they can arrest you.
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