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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post

    You are right that it would take a couple years for everything to gear up, but we have a lot of rigs sitting idle right now that could get to work. If we deregulated American energy, though, it would easily create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Everyone would get rich.
    Hundreds of thousand of jobs, perhaps, but who would take them? Experienced oil and gas workers are at full employment. Not everyone, or even many are ready to pack up a head to the Arctic, Wyoming, or North Dakota to find work.
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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Interestingly, I could make the exact same argument about trying to raise the taxes of the poor and middle class vs. the moderately wealthy. But in that case you would argue that it's invalid to look at how taxes impact people's lives, right? All that matters is we should all pay the same percentage.
    we should have a system that does not reward politicians with votes by them telling the masses that tax hikes on OTHERS will pay for the goodies the masses want

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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    uhm, FAIL..... can't really say anymore on your post here.
    My post used the exact same logic that yours did. By extension you just admitted that your post was a big pile of crap. Pay attention next time and you could have seen this coming.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps you can tell all of us just when you will be honest enough to do just that? Tell us when you are going to compared he apples earned by Buffett with the apples earned by his secretary?

    And please, not just cherry picking (or would that be apple picking?) one of the bushels - lets compare ALL of the content of the damn bushels that both have earned.

    Its not class envy that is the problem - its intellectual fraud committed by the far right wing libertarians in their crusade to suck up to the rich.


    Capitol gains taxes is tax on money you already earned and have been taxed and now want to invest. now if you want to argue that it should be taxed across the board and a higher rate, I would believe you not to be jealous of those who have done better with thier lives than you. Since you like to lie about me and infer I am a far right winger (something I shredded ad nauseum with you), I would have to respond to your asinine little quip and remind you.....

    The Good Reverend is the rich. I suck up to no one.



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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    My post used the exact same logic that yours did. By extension you just admitted that your post was a big pile of crap. Pay attention next time and you could have seen this coming.


    It's amazing what you all have devolved to.... simply amazing.
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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why are you lowering yourself to the base level of attempting to pry personal information from a poster instead of speaking to the issues raised?


    hmm, by calling Turtle the "faux rich" you are opening yourself up to comparison at best, at worst, you are engaging in the very thing you are chiding.
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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

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    Let's stop discussing each other please. Stick to the topic.
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    Re: Christie: Buffett Should ‘Write a Check and Shut Up’

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Capitol gains taxes is tax on money you already earned and have been taxed and now want to invest.
    Well, that's obviously not true. Capital gains taxes are levied on income from investments. It's not a tax on money that you've earned and *want* to invest. It's a tax on profit from investment. They don't ask if the money that was invested was earned by you or whether you invested money that was gifted to you. Let's say, for example, that you inherited $10 million dollars and invest that nut in dividend-paying stocks. Are you proposing that you should live the rest of your life on the proceeds from that investment without ever paying a penny in taxes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This is exactly the type of sentiment which so divides the left and the right. Anytime a rightie says something like this you can just visualize all the other warriors of the right standing up to salute ramrod straight and saying YEAH!!!!!! Those of us on the left progressive think it is so silly and stupid because one person writing a check does not even rise to the level of a half-assed substitute for a national tax policy which works for the entire nation.

    I will never understand why anyone on the right thinks one person writing a check is a solution for a nation.
    Wow, and you don't think your statement is divisive? Both sides to this inane cheering and applauding and it isn't just one side that is divisive but you sure are implying it. Pretty hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    You guy's are acting like his argument is a personal problem, and it's not a personal problem... he is arguing a about a policy. You guys, instead of arguing policy, you attack him personally and it goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing. And if he did put his money where his mouth is (as you say), and forked over a billion to the government, would that buy your respect for him? **** no, it wouldn't, and that's exactly why he shouldn't do it.
    My issue is Buffett would not be hurt all that much by a raise in income taxes, most of what he earns is passive income and thus fall under different codes and he can exploit all sorts of deductions, so he is really just playing benevolent. If was really serious about evening his and his secretary's tax rate, he'd talk about eliminating deductions. The last time the rich's effective tax rate went up was under the Reagan administration, that is when many deductions were suspended. Since then the effective tax rate has fallen in every administration since then.

    He said what would make him popular with Obama, cause more class warfare, he said nothing that would really hurt him and his payback from Obama is his rail still gets to haul tons and tons of oil. Pay a little, get a lot back. Not very sincere.

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