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Who says self-empowerment is automatically best in every case? The world needs leaders and followers.
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When it comes to decisions like who I worship? Yep.
Yes I am and frankly, I'm not necessarily impressed with everything he says. A lot of his philosophy, and Hobbes, are just pie-in-the-sky nonsense that cannot be defended rationally.
You get an Amen. I hate political theory (it isn't really philosophy), but certain things they are say ARE the basis of Western politics...and pretty "self evident" as it were. Like the idea "inallienable" human rights.
Rights come from society.
Thank you Thrasymachus.
If society says you have no rights, you have no rights.
I think it is more like: If society wants to violate your rights...they WILL violate your rights. It doesn't make it right or excusable to murder someone for being a non-believer. This isn't a unique philosophy to one country. Every civillized nation on Earth has these laws. Even China has a very basic form of Freedom of Religion (sort of).
They are not some magical, mystical things that float around in the ether
No they aren't. Freedom of religion, freedom from persecution, and generally life, liberty, and pursuit of happieness.
doesn't prove our ways are any better,
Sure it does. At least that is what you are justifying because that is EXACTLY what Iran is doing.
Every nation should be held responsible for human rights. When a nation willfully violates human rights (in a legal sense)...then it is wrong. It is one thing for a criminal element to do something...it is another for there to be state sanctioned executions of people for renouncement of their faith.
Honestly how can anyone defend Iran here? It is CLEARLY wrong.