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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    You're concentrating on islam, we doing the christian hypocrisy bit. I wasnt aware that this thread had anything else going on it it at this point since youve been steering things.
    The topic is "Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death".

    If you want to start a thread on Christian hypocrisy then just go for it. You'll probably get a response.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The topic is "Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death".

    If you want to start a thread on Christian hypocrisy then just go for it. You'll probably get a response.
    By the way, here's what happens when you run scared from the Islamic problem.

    2 more US troops killed by Afghan partners as anti-Americanism rages following Qur

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope, just absurdly biased. And it can't, by definition, be murder if it's legal. I suspect you don't care though, you're just being emotional.
    Pardon the Godwin, but didn't Hitler use that same excuse to kill the Jews? It was legal, therefore alright to murder?

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Pardon the Godwin, but didn't Hitler use that same excuse to kill the Jews? It was legal, therefore alright to murder?
    no, he said that Jews were racially inferior, and were a cancer upon the Earth.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    As mentioned earlier these sorts of atrocities against Christians and others are happening all over the world. It is not restricted to Iran. Thus it is clear that Islam is to blame and, in fact, the Koran promotes this sort of action. How can Islam not be to responsible when the Koran advocates this behavior and Muslims are carrying it out?
    Blaming the Koran is like blaming the Bible for Christian atrocities. Sorry, but people do what they do out of interpretations of the bible and Koran. So I take it you blame the bible then for all the Christian atrocitites that have happened since even the New Testament was written? I don't think you do, so why would you blame the Koran. I've read the Koran and like the bible, it is misrepresented a lot.

    Don't get me wrong, I still don't like everything in both of them because I don't believe homosexuality is a sin, but still I don't think the bible or koran are to blame for the actions of others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then we could blame those beliefs which fostered the murders of innocent people, just as we did with Fascism, Communism, slavery, and so on.. Keep in mind that Islam is belief systems and has nothing based on scientific fact, nor does it have any intellectual support. Children and easily influenced adults were brainwashed into it and now they should be educated out of it.
    The whole point which you are missing is it isn't the religion, it's the people that are abusing the religion that are the problems. If they could simply abuse another religion that means that the problem is them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You can see what I'm doing about it. I am speaking out against it here and elsewhere in order that this hate filled craziness be stopped. Nowhere did i suggest the US got to war with Iran over this issue and have no idea where you got this idea. But every civilized person should be speaking out against this latest Islamic atrocity, as well as others they are committing throughout the world. Our media and political leaders should stop running scared from these seventh century dittoheads and start facing up to them or more and more innocent people are going to be murdered at their hands.
    I have no problem with standing up over atrocities commited in the name of Islam. No problem with that at all, but don't go blaming Muslims as a whole when the problem is with tyrants, dictators, and those that want to pervert a religion to instill control over a population.

    Anyone can abuse a religion, it's not the fault of the religion or the texts.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The topic is "Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death".

    If you want to start a thread on Christian hypocrisy then just go for it. You'll probably get a response.
    And what does that have to do with you enlightened theological judgements on the religion of 1/6th of the world? As for responses I'm getting one from you so we might make some progress.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Pardon the Godwin, but didn't Hitler use that same excuse to kill the Jews? It was legal, therefore alright to murder?
    I doubt it was categorized by any legal means or confirmed to any great extent by any judicial authority.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    By the way, here's what happens when you run scared from the Islamic problem.

    2 more US troops killed by Afghan partners as anti-Americanism rages following Qur
    I'm not sure common sense says defiling a mans prophet will garner his violence.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    TheNextEra;1060250352] The whole point which you are missing is it isn't the religion, it's the people that are abusing the religion that are the problems. If they could simply abuse another religion that means that the problem is them.
    If the Koran is directing Muslims to carry out these atrocities and Muslims are indeed carrying them out, how can the Islamic religion not be involved? It seems you are fervently hoping that islam is a benign religion full of peace and loves and that anything which strays from that idea is an aberration. Such is not the case, and the Koran is not the New Testament.
    I have no problem with standing up over atrocities commited in the name of Islam. No problem with that at all, but don't go blaming Muslims as a whole when the problem is with tyrants, dictators, and those that want to pervert a religion to instill control over a population.
    I can easily blame Muslims as a whole because they are not speaking out against the atrocities Muslims throughout the world are committing. Decent muslims should be damning these crimes but, by and large, they either remain silent or make excuses.
    Anyone can abuse a religion, it's not the fault of the religion or the texts.
    Of course it is the fault of the texts! Those are the basis of the religion. Otherwise where does any religion get their beliefs and how else would they be sustained? You have an overinflated view of religion, it seems.
    Last edited by Grant; 03-01-12 at 06:20 PM.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    I can easily blame Muslims as a whole because they are not speaking out against the atrocities Muslims throughout the world are committing. Decent muslims should be damning these crimes but, by and large, they either remain silent or make excuses.
    There are plenty of 'Muslim' NGOs and aid organizations and plenty of Muslims who live in countries with strict laws against terror. The most populous Muslim country is quite fantastically peaceful. They would not cut off your head there.

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