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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Clandestine View Post
    Lol, how would you know anything about the sexual education in mosques.
    Someone who uses Ayatollah Khomeni as an authority to represent Islam.
    It seems obvious that Khomeini, as a religious head of a major Muslim country and much revered during his lifetime throughout the Muslim world, would have to be a fair representation of Islam.

    Khomeini authored several books and was very influential, certainly moreso than any other Muslim during that period.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems obvious that Khomeini, as a religious head of a major Muslim country and much revered during his lifetime throughout the Muslim world, would have to be a fair representation of Islam.

    Khomeini authored several books and was very influential, certainly moreso than any other Muslim during that period.
    He got a lot of press from the West. His influence is limited to Persia, and not even all Persians accept him or his version of Islam or Islam.
    The majority of the Muslim community is centralized Sunni. They are frequent critics of the Iranian regime and its president. The "scholars" of Iran have a truly strange view of Islam for the centralized Sunni population. To the extent, many Muslim support the strategic fall of Assad regime not only for humanitarian reasons, but their disapproval of any allegiance between Syria and Iran, which Assad was working on.
    His influence fell as quickly as it rose because most Muslims don't use him as a source ever. The Iranian revolution doesn't pertain to the larger Muslim countries and population. The version of Islam there is very isolated except for the sporadic Shia Muslims elsewhere.
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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Clandestine View Post
    He got a lot of press from the West. His influence is limited to Persia, and not even all Persians accept him or his version of Islam or Islam.
    The majority of the Muslim community is centralized Sunni. They are frequent critics of the Iranian regime and its president. The "scholars" of Iran have a truly strange view of Islam for the centralized Sunni population. To the extent, many Muslim support the strategic fall of Assad regime not only for humanitarian reasons, but their disapproval of any allegiance between Syria and Iran, which Assad was working on.
    His influence fell as quickly as it rose because most Muslims don't use him as a source ever. The Iranian revolution doesn't pertain to the larger Muslim countries and population. The version of Islam there is very isolated except for the sporadic Shia Muslims elsewhere.
    That really doesn't conflict with what I said.

    But of course there are no international Muslim protests over the death notice of this Pastor as there was against the Mohammed cartoons, for example. Or the Korans being accidentally burnt in Afghanistan which sparked the latest Muslim "outrage", riots and murders. On this Muslims remain silent or deflect to other areas.

    To be a Muslim now is to align oneself with ignorance.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That really doesn't conflict with what I said.

    But of course there are no international Muslim protests over the death notice of this Pastor as there was against the Mohammed cartoons, for example. Or the Korans being accidentally burnt in Afghanistan which sparked the latest Muslim "outrage", riots and murders. On this Muslims remain silent or deflect to other areas.

    To be a Muslim now is to align oneself with ignorance.
    YOUR posts actually prove the opposite, regarding alignment with ignorance
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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That really doesn't conflict with what I said.

    But of course there are no international Muslim protests over the death notice of this Pastor as there was against the Mohammed cartoons, for example. Or the Korans being accidentally burnt in Afghanistan which sparked the latest Muslim "outrage", riots and murders. On this Muslims remain silent or deflect to other areas.

    To be a Muslim now is to align oneself with ignorance.
    Why? hes dumb?

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    YOUR posts actually prove the opposite, regarding alignment with ignorance
    Really?

    I am protesting the murder of an innocent man by Muslims while Muslims are not protesting against this vile and heinous act. Instead they are protesting against the defacement of a book, one which they deliberately defaced themselves.

    After all these years do you really require further evidence of Islamic ignorance? Why?

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I am protesting the murder of an innocent man by Muslims while Muslims are not protesting against this vile and heinous act. Instead they are protesting against the defacement of a book, one which they deliberately defaced themselves.
    But he's not innocent, he demonstrably broke the established law and is facing the proscribed penalty. He's not innocent, he's guilty.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But he's not innocent, he demonstrably broke the established law and is facing the proscribed penalty. He's not innocent, he's guilty.
    Not only this he can get off scott free at any moment. I don't see why he's trying to score cool points overseas...

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Can we agree that Christianity is generally more peaceful than Islam?
    No Muslim ever sent a relative of mine to a gas chamber.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Really?

    I am protesting the murder of an innocent man by Muslims while Muslims are not protesting against this vile and heinous act. Instead they are protesting against the defacement of a book, one which they deliberately defaced themselves.

    After all these years do you really require further evidence of Islamic ignorance? Why?
    i point to your posts to illustrate the ongoing ignorance
    that fostered by the intolerant
    those like you
    doesn't matter the religion
    those who are self righteous and leave no room for any doubt are the ones inclined to cause the problems - all in the name of [insert religion name here]
    yes, it can be moslems. those who will encourage the ignorant to do heinous acts in the name of their G-d. 9/11 is only the worst act of many
    same for the jews. look at the injustice they inflict in gaza
    ditto for the Christians. every Christian should be embarrassed by the likes of the westboro church group and its uncivil actions

    even within these religions the sub-groups fight among each other because each will not tolerate the alternate views of the other
    we see this with the sunnis and the shia
    the catholics and the protestants
    we see the reformed jews at odds with the orthodox jews
    the common thread is intolerance. something with which you are obviously well acquainted

    but a look at your posts on this topic will reveal great ignorance. because you exhibit great intolerance of another religious view
    you asked. i answered. unfortunately, it was probably a waste of my time to respond to a closed mind. please prove me wrong
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