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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact Muslims are doing much the same thing as Iran in several areas of the world.The problem is Islam, and always has been.
    The problem is with Iran. Tyrants, Dictators, and countries that use religion by basterdizing it to suit their needs are the problem.

    There are peaceful Muslims out there which PROVE Islam is not the problem. If there were NO PEACFUL Muslims at all, then you would have a point, but there are.

    There is not one religion out there that hasn't been basterdized by someone to suit their needs.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The problem is with Iran. Tyrants, Dictators, and countries that use religion by basterdizing it to suit their needs are the problem.
    No, there are many areas of the world where Muslims are creating a great deal of problems, against other Muslims as well as those of other religions. That you don't know about this does not mean it is not happening.
    There are peaceful Muslims out there which PROVE Islam is not the problem. If there were NO PEACFUL Muslims at all, then you would have a point, but there are.
    I'm sure there are many peaceful Muslims but that would be despite islam, not because of it.
    There is not one religion out there that hasn't been basterdized by someone to suit their needs.
    Islam seems particularly vulnerable to this bastardization. It's happened throughout history and is also happening during our lifetimes.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    No, there are many areas of the world where Christians are creating a great deal of problems, against other Christians as well as those of other religions. That you don't know about this does not mean it is not happening.


    I'm sure there are many peaceful Christians but that would be despite Christianity, not because of it.


    Christianity seems particularly vulnerable to this bastardization. It's happened throughout history and is also happening during our lifetimes.
    i tested that statement for another religion
    it was just as absurd then, too
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i tested that statement for another religion
    it was just as absurd then, too
    If it is your intention to create absurdities rather than deal in facts then you are doing an adequate job of it.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact Muslims are doing much the same thing as Iran in several areas of the world.The problem is Islam, and always has been.
    The problem I have with that reasoning is that not all Muslims agree with this behavior. I have had many Muslim friends in my life, and I am certain that every one of them would condemn Iran for killing this man.

    I'm not denying that there is a pattern of radicalism in many Muslim countries. However, I'm not prepared to sit in judgement of all Muslims as I am certain that most of them are upstanding people.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If it is your intention to create absurdities rather than deal in facts then you are doing an adequate job of it.
    i was not seeking to create an absurdity but to point one out: your post
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And when Christianity was doing the same thing a couple hundred years ago? The problem is religion and always has been.
    What about all the good Christians?

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And when Christianity was doing the same thing a couple hundred years ago? The problem is greed, power, politics, and people and always has been.
    There I think that works much better.
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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What about all the good Christians?
    They don't count obviously. All the donations, charities, universities, anti-slavery movements, and all that don't count when put next to all the "evil" things that were done.

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    Re: Iran court convicts Christian pastor convert to death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What about all the good Christians?
    What about all the good Muslims?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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