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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    When I see the Democrats in Congress proposing and fighting for this kind of legislation, then I might believe he wants to do something. Until then it's all political campaign rhetoric...meaningless to anyone who is not a sheeple.
    It's sad how narrow-minded conservatives can be, unable to believe others can have balanced goals. But given the level of negotiation and cooperation of the Republicans this last year I shouldn't be surprised.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It's sad how narrow-minded conservatives can be, unable to believe others can have balanced goals. But given the level of negotiation and cooperation of the Republicans this last year I shouldn't be surprised.
    Another definition of being narrow minded is in blaming the other side for everything. I noted in my first post that I agree with taking tax law in this direction but it's a valid position to say that if Congress does nothing to further this, it's nothing more than hot air.

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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

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    Another definition of being narrow minded is in blaming the other side for everything. I noted in my first post that I agree with taking tax law in this direction but it's a valid position to say that if Congress does nothing to further this, it's nothing more than hot air.
    I agree - I just play tit for tat. If someone posts that the Dems are playing one-sided then I see nothing wrong in pointing out the one-sidedness of Republican politics, too.


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    If he had stated it instead of turning his post into an anti-Dem ad that would have been different but catch-words like "sheeple" point to the real intent of the post.
    Notice I didn't use "Corporate Lap Dogs" anywhere - until now, of course.
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    This is one step in the right direction. I would have lowered it to 34.9% with no loopholes.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I agree - I just play tit for tat. If someone posts that the Dems are playing one-sided then I see nothing wrong in pointing out the one-sidedness of Republican politics, too.
    A complete waste of time. Besides, the arguement was not that the "Dems" were playing one sided. The arguement was that Obama will never take this any further than a speech.

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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It's sad how narrow-minded conservatives can be, unable to believe others can have balanced goals. But given the level of negotiation and cooperation of the Republicans this last year I shouldn't be surprised.
    The only difference between the Democrats and Republicans in Congress is that the Republicans have been...and will be...actually proposing and introducing legislation. The Democrats only talk...don't act.

    This thread is a case in point. Obama talks, but nothing happens. The Republicans talk, and introduce legislation.

    Of course, such legislation is blocked, stalled or outright ignored by the Democrats but nobody holds them to account for their actions.


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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I agree - I just play tit for tat. If someone posts that the Dems are playing one-sided then I see nothing wrong in pointing out the one-sidedness of Republican politics, too.


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    If he had stated it instead of turning his post into an anti-Dem ad that would have been different but catch-words like "sheeple" point to the real intent of the post.
    Notice I didn't use "Corporate Lap Dogs" anywhere - until now, of course.
    Yes. Since you can't defend against the notion that this whole issue is simply a campaign tactic used by Obama, you resort to playing "tit for tat" and blame the Republicans.

    Good job, dude.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The only difference between the Democrats and Republicans in Congress is that the Republicans have been...and will be...actually proposing and introducing legislation. The Democrats only talk...don't act.

    This thread is a case in point. Obama talks, but nothing happens. The Republicans talk, and introduce legislation.

    Of course, such legislation is blocked, stalled or outright ignored by the Democrats but nobody holds them to account for their actions.


    So it goes.
    Last time I checked the President could not introduce legislation, only Congressmen could do that. Has the Constitution changed???

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Yes. Since you can't defend against the notion that this whole issue is simply a campaign tactic used by Obama, you resort to playing "tit for tat" and blame the Republicans.
    It's not my fault or the Dems that the Republicans claimed in no uncertain terms that there #1 Job was making Obama a one-term president. That was six months ago and their actions since have been obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. The Republicans did that to themselves, no one pushed them into it.


    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    A complete waste of time. Besides, the arguement was not that the "Dems" were playing one sided. The arguement was that Obama will never take this any further than a speech.
    When it comes to making or changing law the president can't do much else except recommend. I would have thought that was obvious?
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    1. Last time I checked the President could not introduce legislation, only Congressmen could do that. Has the Constitution changed???




    2. It's not my fault or the Dems that the Republicans claimed in no uncertain terms that there #1 Job was making Obama a one-term president. That was six months ago and their actions since have been obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. The Republicans did that to themselves, no one pushed them into it.
    1. Do you really expect Congressional Democrats to introduce legislation along the lines Obama set? I don't...and neither does the article that this thread is based upon.

    2. LOL!! More of the "blame Republicans"...none of the "holding Obama accountable for his actions".

    Come on, dude. Justify Obama...if you can, eh? Is this all political campaign rhetoric...as I contend? Or does he REALLY want to cut taxes? Blaming the Republicans is idiotic and meaningless.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    1. Do you really expect Congressional Democrats to introduce legislation along the lines Obama set? I don't...and neither does the article that this thread is based upon.
    I don't expect anything out of anybody in Congress - on either side of the aisle. If it weren't for the obvious downside to letting the payroll tax lapse they wouldn't have gotten anything done this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Or does he REALLY want to cut taxes?
    From the article:
    Under the framework proposed by the administration, the rate cuts, closed loopholes and the minimum tax on overseas earning would result in no increase to the deficit.
    I interpret that to mean no tax cuts, so I don't know where you got that idea?

    What I see is a partial streamlining of the system (closing loopholes) and a shift to use taxes as an incentive for investment in the US - including keeping jobs in the US or moving them back here.
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