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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More propaganda? That's your source? Really?

    What part of, "you can't report a profit and not pay taxes on that profit", don't you understand? My source is plain ol' commom sense.
    By this reply, are we to assume that "apdst" considers himself to be the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY on these matters and therefore considers it beneath his dignity to provide sources that support his "OPINION?"
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    By this reply, are we to assume that "apdst" considers his opinion to be the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY on these matters and therefore considers it beneath his dignity to provide sources that support his "OPINION?"
    The facts are the ultimate authority and the facts show that these companies don't pay zero taxes.

    I've already exposed the lie that GE didn't pay taxes last year. At the very least, they paid payroll taxes to the tune of millions, if not billions.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The facts are the ultimate authority and the facts show that these companies don't pay zero taxes.

    I've already exposed the lie that GE didn't pay taxes last year. At the very least, they paid payroll taxes to the tune of millions, if not billions.
    If "the facts are the ultimate authority," just where do these so-called facts that "apdst" is referring to come from?

    Are we to assume that they just spring from "apdst's" head, since he is so adverse to providing sources that might support his opinions?

    Paying "payroll taxes" isn't the issue, corporation paying federal tax on their annual profits is!
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    If "the facts are the ultimate authority," just where do these so-called facts that "apdst" is rerferring to come from?

    Are we to assume that they just spring from "apdst's" head, since he is so adverse to providing sources that might support his opinions?

    Paying "payroll taxes" isn't the issue, corporation paying federal tax on their annual profits is!
    I already posted this once, but I don't mind posting it again.



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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already posted this once, but I don't mind posting it again.

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    Would "apdst" actually have us believe that a "news site" founded by Tucker Carlson, a conservative commentator, and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Cheney, is an unbiased source?

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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    Would "apdst" actually have us believe that a "news site" founded by Tucker Carlson, a conservative commentator, and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Cheney, is an unbiased source?
    It's aces, compared to what you posted. But, hey I'll post another one for you.

    This is how it works out here in the real world.

    Did GE pay U.S. income taxes in 2010? Yes, it paid estimated taxes for 2010, and also made payments for previous years. Think of it as your having paid withholding taxes on your salary in 2010, and sending the IRS a check on April 15, 2010, covering your balance owed for 2009.

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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already posted this once, but I don't mind posting it again.

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    Would "apdst" actually have us believe that a "news site" founded by Tucker Carlson, a conservative commentator, and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Cheney, could be considered an unbiased source?
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    Would "apdst" actually have us believe that a "news site" founded by Tucker Carlson, a conservative commentator, and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Cheney, is an unbiased source?
    I guess CNN is a pro Republican site, too?

    The truth about GE's tax bill - Fortune Features
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    GE's current idea of "reform" as expounded by John Samuels, the head of its tax department, is to cut the rate, but to allow some of GE's major tax-minimizing maneuvers to remain in place. It's hard to imagine anything like that happening now.

    Samuels said at a tax forum in February that GE needs a tax system that will let it compete effectively with giant, foreign-based multinationals like Mitsubishi, Siemens, and Phillips. However, their effective tax rates for earnings purposes last year were 40 percent, 31 percent and 26 percent respectively, compared with 7 percent for GE. (GE says its tax rate's been artificially low the past few years, and will soon rise.)

    http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.co...-ges-tax-bill/
    Even the source that "apdst" provided admits that GE paid a mere 7% in tax, as compared to the going rate of 35% that corporations supposedly pay.

    A 7% tax for GE, perhaps the world's largest multinational, is half of the 14% that the multimillionaire Mitt Romney pays - which in turn is far less than the rate the average American is required to pay.
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    Re: Obama seeks 28 percent corp. tax rate

    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden47 View Post
    Even the source that "apdst" provided admits that GE paid a mere 7% in tax, as compared to the going rate of 35% that corporations supposedly pay.

    A 7% tax for GE, perhaps the world's largest multinational, is half of the 14% that the multimillionaire Mitt Romney pays - which in turn is far less than the rate the average American is required to pay.
    So, they did pay taxes? Thanks for fnally admitting that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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