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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    When it comes to fighting counterinsurgency, the primary goal is to "win the hearts and minds of the people." The existence of the enemy is incidental.

    Now we can argue about the efficacy of counterinsurgency in general and debate the merits of restrictive ROE in particular, but there's more to the wars we are currently fighting than simply eliminating the enemy. Victory in war is not determined by body count.


    hearts and minds?

    candy too?

    ok I give up ..... hey this is the internet .... LOL not real life!


    It's ok too LOL

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    hearts and minds?

    candy too?

    ok I give up ..... hey this is the internet .... LOL not real life!


    It's ok too LOL

    you should give up because your embarrassing yourself. Im off to bed you should probably watch the last Rambo film and come back in the morning with some real debate...

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    hearts and minds?

    candy too?

    ok I give up ..... hey this is the internet .... LOL not real life!


    It's ok too LOL
    Here, why don't you educate yourself instead of laughing off other people's arguments Mya:

    http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-24.pdf
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Here, why don't you educate yourself instead of laughing off other people's arguments Mya:

    http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-24.pdf


    Oh Lord!

    I'm scared now....

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    you should give up because your embarrassing yourself. Im off to bed you should probably watch the last Rambo film and come back in the morning with some real debate...

    good night sleep tight

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    drones cant control a population.
    No, but they can sure as hell kill the ones that need killing.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    its not about being politically correct its about knowing your surroundings. When I was deployed to Iraq we spent hours in the classroom learning about the people of southern Iraq, their cultures and beliefs. What your talking about is total war which is not relevant in Afgahn. The soldiers that go their are fighting the taliban and al qaeda and are supposed to be setting a legacy of western democracy that will last after we are gone and will hopefully stop history repeating itself. The russians bombed the crap out of the afghan people and not only lost the war but started a decade of military regime under the taliban, to simply just bomb the locals as your suggesting not onlt spits on the memory of the solderis that died in Afghan it also shows that you (mya) learned nothing from that attacks of 9/11 and alsmost welcome such attacks again.
    These people know nothing about democracy and don't care about it. Mostly they care about their particular tribe and making sure that they have more goats than the next guy. The lives lost in Afghanistan were wasted, just like the lives in Vietnam. Get them out now and to hell with the entire country. Let them eat their Korans for all I care.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    have to ask but have you been to war?

    p.s war is not always total obliteration, you seem to be a little naive.
    I have been to war. Afghanistan is very like the war I fought in. Useless allies, just as likely to shoot at you as the enemy, and a country frankly not worth one American life.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    These people know nothing about democracy and don't care about it. Mostly they care about their particular tribe and making sure that they have more goats than the next guy. The lives lost in Afghanistan were wasted, just like the lives in Vietnam. Get them out now and to hell with the entire country. Let them eat their Korans for all I care.
    I agree with that!

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    “The embassy is on lockdown; all travel suspended. Please, everyone, be safe out there,” the U.S. Embassy posted on its official Twitter account Wednesday morning.
    Afghan protests over Koran burning spread on second day - The Washington Post

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