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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, Mexicans are not your enemies but an open border policy is not good for the United States.
    If our leaders agreed with you, it would be closed. Sorry.


    Right.
    I assume that is not agreement, so show where we've closed it? The al;ws are on the book to stop it.

    No, i diagnosed the problem accurately and so did you. The US cannot govern its borders. The reasons may vary according to individual political whims but the fact remains that Americans cannot control their borders. As a result of what's happened in the US and Europe, btw, Canada is now making their borders and immigration policies more strict.
    You blamed it because we can't talk and chew gum at the same time. That was a misdiagnosis. You have not thought about it with a clear head and good reasoning.

    You cannot govern your borders nor balance a budget, both thought at one time to be essential to any nation which took itself seriously. And there is still no will to turn things around. It will end badly. Blame the usual suspects but the consequences will be the same no matter who is at fault.
    The word is we won't, not we can't. There are reasons, and hyper partisanship is one of the reasons. Unless you properly diagnose the problem, you will never know what the solution is.

    I dont want to argue VN. But it was as clear then as it is now whose side the Left were on.
    I know, you don't want to look at it honestly, but I will concede this isn't the place. It is easier to have a them than to see any nuance. I do understand, really.


    Yes, on occasion soldiers do bad things. So do civilians. Is there a point here?
    true, and yep, there is a point. Bad apples spoil all bunches, be it military or civilian. The taste of VN was a bad taste, and the spoil spilled over. But the blame was with those who reckless and wrongly took us to an unneeded war, much like we saw again in Iraq.



    America will never have a cause just enough to satisfy the American Left. Never.
    yeah, but both of them don't matter. The point is a majority of a nation that is center right didn't support either VN or Iraq.

    And this raw nerve was, largely, exasperated by the American Left. That is clear.

    So far you've said nothing that has impressed me. You make claims that you know a great deal but this is followed by inane comments such as soldiers do bad things. Perhaps you should focus on what is said rather than falsely advertising your areas of expertise.
    Again, both of them don't matter. What was the comment about losing Cronkite? The fact was VN lost the country as a whole, outside of the relatively few extreme supporters. You blame the left, whoever they are, but the fact was the nation didn't support it.

    Fair enough.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If our leaders agreed with you, it would be closed. Sorry.
    So your leaders feel an open door policy is the best policy? And the people agree with them?

    You blamed it because we can't talk and chew gum at the same time. That was a misdiagnosis. You have not thought about it with a clear head and good reasoning.
    You know how to use the quote system so why not do it? I've asked you many times to please follow that rule because you fabricate, and are now doing it again.
    The word is we won't, not we can't. There are reasons, and hyper partisanship is one of the reasons. Unless you properly diagnose the problem, you will never know what the solution is.
    Won't, can't - the result is the same. Your still flailing around for someone, anyone , to blame while the ship of state sinks. You, and millions like you, are the problem.

    true, and yep, there is a point. Bad apples spoil all bunches, be it military or civilian. The taste of VN was a bad taste, and the spoil spilled over. But the blame was with those who reckless and wrongly took us to an unneeded war, much like we saw again in Iraq.
    And the left wanted to ensure that both wars were lost, as indeed they were. The Left supported international communism and later Islamic extremism. Calling these wars unneeded" is only a weak effort to intellectualize what is really an anti American habit.

    Now the left will attempt to ensure America's destruction with open borders and unsustainable debt. And anyone who threatens this agenda will be roundly denounced from every direction, few of them ever dealing with the actual issues now facing the United States. That's the point of this whole contraception business. This administration knows well how to distract their sheep.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So your leaders feel an open door policy is the best policy? And the people agree with them?
    First not mine, but our. Party makes no difference. Second, no, they merely have to allow it for those who need it and influence them more than working folks do. If they wanted it closed, it would be closed.


    You know how to use the quote system so why not do it? I've asked you many times to please follow that rule because you fabricate, and are now doing it again.
    I fabricate nothing. Your quote, which you know as well as I do, was that talking about contraceptions prevent us from tackling these things (walking and chewing gum at the same time). but that is not the reason at all.

    Won't, can't - the result is the same. Your still flailing around for someone, anyone , to blame while the ship of state sinks. You, and millions like you, are the problem.
    it makes a difference, and has nothing to do with blame. You cannot fix what you don't understand.

    And the left wanted to ensure that both wars were lost, as indeed they were. The Left supported international communism and later Islamic extremism. Calling these wars unneeded" is only a weak effort to intellectualize what is really an anti American habit.

    Now the left will attempt to ensure America's destruction with open borders and unsustainable debt. And anyone who threatens this agenda will be roundly denounced from every direction, few of them ever dealing with the actual issues now facing the United States. That's the point of this whole contraception business. This administration knows well how to distract their sheep.
    You have invested heavily into the propaganda. Sad. I advise yo step back, take a deep breath, clear your mind of the them and us garbage, and start examining the situation anew. Less partisanship and more objective analysis.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    well he's not exactly begging is he, the guy has to apologise its called being a statesmen.
    Obama should say, "Stop burning our flags, and we'll stop burning your Korans."
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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obama should say, "Stop burning our flags, and we'll stop burning your Korans."
    That's a GREAT idea!!
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    That's a GREAT idea!!
    Revolutionary!

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Revolutionary!
    Agreed! As revolutionary as thinking pulling out of the Middle East will turn all the terrorists into America's BFF's. OOooh! Can't wait!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obama should say, "Stop burning our flags, and we'll stop burning your Korans."
    A wonderful idea!

    Americans are probably disliked internationally more than Afghanis but if Americans were to start shooting Muslims whenever their flag was burned there would be a lot of shocked people around the world.

    Muslims riot and murder over their hurt feelings and its become rather expected. The generally accepted standards of human behavior fall dramatically whenever Muslims become involved.

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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Agreed! As revolutionary as thinking pulling out of the Middle East will turn all the terrorists into America's BFF's. OOooh! Can't wait!
    Wow!!! Link someone arguing that.


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    Re: Afghans Protest Alleged Koran Desecration

    Now those savages in Afghanistan have killed 6 more British soldiers .... This is the worst single loss of life in one incident due to enemy action for UK troops in Afghanistan since the start of the war in 2001.

    they really belong to The Dark ages, they really do!


    BBC News - Six UK soldiers killed in Afghanistan explosion

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