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Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

rocket88 said:
I need to address "facts" from the Heritage Foundation's blog? :lamo

Maybe someone can go and find some from the Daily Kos for you to address. :lamo

Just make a guess. What would gas cost if McCain had won? Think it might be higher than $1.86?
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Wait wait wait......addressing something written by the Heritage foundation isn't something worthwhile, but when Pete spews forth his crap from Media Matters the conservatives on this board are ripped a new one for knocking the source without addressing the content. Why is that?

I do believe that goes both ways.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Wait wait wait......addressing something written by the Heritage foundation isn't something worthwhile, but when Pete spews forth his crap from Media Matters the conservatives on this board are ripped a new one for knocking the source without addressing the content. Why is that?

I do believe that goes both ways.
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Last I checked, my name's not Pete. I can't control what he does or what the hard left on this board does.

I read the talking points from the blog that were posted. Same old right wing talking points. I addressed a few of them without directly saying I did.
 
Energy Secretary Chu Admits Administration OK with High Gas Prices

COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama's Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu uttered the kind of Washington gaffe that consists of telling the truth when inconvenient. According to Politico, Chu admitted to a House committee that the administration is not interested in lowering gas prices.

Chu, along with the Obama administration, regards the spike in gas prices as a feature rather than a bug. High gas prices provide an incentive for alternate energy technology, a priority for the White House, and a decrease in reliance on oil for energy.


Energy Secretary Chu Admits Administration OK with High Gas Prices - Yahoo! News

The translation goes like this........"President Obama is not able to lead the country in the direction we would like as he's not a leader so we have to hope for artificial means to convince people to do what what we want".
 
1Perry said:
Energy Secretary Chu Admits Administration OK with High Gas Prices

COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama's Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu uttered the kind of Washington gaffe that consists of telling the truth when inconvenient. According to Politico, Chu admitted to a House committee that the administration is not interested in lowering gas prices.

Chu, along with the Obama administration, regards the spike in gas prices as a feature rather than a bug. High gas prices provide an incentive for alternate energy technology, a priority for the White House, and a decrease in reliance on oil for energy.


Energy Secretary Chu Admits Administration OK with High Gas Prices - Yahoo! News

The translation goes like this........"President Obama is not able to lead the country in the direction we would like as he's not a leader so we have to hope for artificial means to convince people to do what what we want".
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Wrong translation, and I do wonder why you posted what is essentially a slightly hysterical blog opinion piece rather than the underlying Politico article. Anyhoo, here's your translation:

Gasbag Republican moron congressman: "Gas prices are going up and I'm stupid!"

Sec'y Chu: "Yes you are, and you have lots of company, which is why we are working on long term solutions."
 
Both articles say the same thing. Chu is fine with high prices. High prices have always been his desired goal.
 
1Perry said:
Both articles say the same thing. Chu is fine with high prices. High prices have always been his desired goal.
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The latter with much less inflammatory rhetoric. The even less inflammatory interpretation is that Chu is not going to do anything to artificially influence current prices.

From your perspective, better he is running the show than I, you can bet on that... since the best thing for the economy, in the long term, would be a stabilised price of, say, $4.00 per gallon (if the free market price falls below that, an automatic tax kicks in to return it to that level). This would stabilise auto production as well as alternative energy investment, compared to the yo-yo effect currently in operation. Chu/Obama are simply too chicken to implement this badly needed policy.
 
1Perry said:
Both articles say the same thing. Chu is fine with high prices. High prices have always been his desired goal.
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Just out of curiosity, what is Chu doing/not doing that raises gas prices?
 
Karl said:
The latter with much less inflammatory rhetoric.
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So what. I believe some inflammatory rhetoric is deserved here. Anyone who would shrug off the problems that expensive gas is going to cause the lower classes should be targeted.
 
EagleAye said:
Just out of curiosity, what is Chu doing/not doing that raises gas prices?
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I didn't say that he could do anything. He does what he is told.
 
What's new??? Had no one noticed the upward trend before now?


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1Perry said:
I didn't say that he could do anything. He does what he is told.
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Okay I misunderstood. When you said this...
1Perry said:
Chu is fine with high prices. High prices have always been his desired goal.
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...it sounds a lot like he could, because how could it be a goal if he couldn't do anything to reach it?

Okay, so who is telling him what to do, and what is that person telling him to do that raises gas prices?
 
This is classic right wing rhethoric: whine like little girls when the economy is dragging ass, and then, when the economy picks up and gas prices naturally rise as a result, whine like little girls about high gas prices.
 
EagleAye said:
Okay I misunderstood. When you said this...

...it sounds a lot like he could, because how could it be a goal if he couldn't do anything to reach it?

Okay, so who is telling him what to do, and what is that person telling him to do that raises gas prices?
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It has been noted over and over what the administration could do to lower oil prices. Why is it that stuff has to be repeated over and over just to be asked to provide it again?
 
1Perry said:
It has been noted over and over what the administration could do to lower oil prices. Why is it that stuff has to be repeated over and over just to be asked to provide it again?
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Let me guess, it involves time travel???
 
Catawba said:
Let me guess, it involves time travel???
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From Charlotte, when driving to the South Carolina shore, there is a closed down gas station that as a regular gas price of $1.09. Oh the days... I got my license right after they ended :(
 
whysoserious said:
From Charlotte, when driving to the South Carolina shore, there is a closed down gas station that as a regular gas price of $1.09. Oh the days... I got my license right after they ended :(
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When I first started driving (1968) to HS in my VW bug (which got 30 mpg way back then), I paid 37 cents per gallon for gas.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
It makes life a little more difficult, oh no!! :roll:

It has to do with a combination of Iran, Europe, and a higher demand. If more nations demand a good (that has a limited availability), there is less of that good available and the price is driven upwards.
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doubt you mentioned that when it was Bush
 
Gas prices will cripple this economy. Cripple. No tax cut or holiday is going to help. If fuel prices continue to increase, the recession will return.
 
Blue_State said:
Gas prices will cripple this economy. Cripple. No tax cut or holiday is going to help. If fuel prices continue to increase, the recession will return.
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If gas companies would put the excess gas in the U.S. market instead of exporting it, the prices at the would drop drastically -- but then so would their profits. So don't expect that to happen.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
If gas companies would put the excess gas in the U.S. market instead of exporting it, the prices at the would drop drastically -- but then so would their profits. So don't expect that to happen.
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I don't undertand this reasoning. The only way it would make a difference would be if there wasn't enough here. There is. Nobody is having any problem getting gas. It makes no sense to try and flood a market with something not needed.

Do we have calls for GM to produce 30,000 cars when they forcast a market for 17,000?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
If gas companies would put the excess gas in the U.S. market instead of exporting it, the prices at the would drop drastically -- but then so would their profits. So don't expect that to happen.
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I am not sure that is legitimate option. Something has to be done, or everyday items are going to cost more than the average person can afford.
 
Blue_State said:
Gas prices will cripple this economy. Cripple. No tax cut or holiday is going to help. If fuel prices continue to increase, the recession will return.
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In Europe the prices are much higher but still the economy works, gas prices in the US are a problem because a lot of people don't have cars with good fuel economy compared to other countries.

With lower fuel consumption prices might be contained and not rise too much further.
 
Peter King said:
In Europe the prices are much higher but still the economy works, gas prices in the US are a problem because a lot of people don't have cars with good fuel economy compared to other countries.

With lower fuel consumption prices might be contained and not rise too much further.
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Unlike Europe, we don't have a developed hub for mass transportation. Everyone here has a car. It is the primary means of conveyance. All of our goods move on trucks. Gas and fuel operate our entire economy.

I didn't own a car when I lived in Germany. Didn't need too. You couldn't survive in most of America (not all, some of the cities have decent transportation hubs) without a car or some means or transportation. Average commutes for workers exceed 45 minutes in some areas. That is one way. We need a better solution. Fuel economy is not our number one issue, that is a talking point. I am not saying that if we all drove 40 mpg cars that it wouldn't help, but that will not change the cost of food at the store.
 
Peter King said:
In Europe the prices are much higher but still the economy works, gas prices in the US are a problem because a lot of people don't have cars with good fuel economy compared to other countries.

With lower fuel consumption prices might be contained and not rise too much further.
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It has nothing to do with good fuel economy. Its because America is large in area and sparse in population density.

We all desire our freedom to go when and where we please. You get what you pay for.
 
Blue_State said:
I am not sure that is legitimate option. Something has to be done, or everyday items are going to cost more than the average person can afford.
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Hysteria. . . .
 
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