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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Gas has been going up steadily since obama seized power. His anti oil policies have investors running up oil prices because they look into the future and see America using more oil and producing less, that's how markets work.
    Obama seized power? How did I miss the coup?

    Gas prices have mostly been going up because the economy has been recovering and demand has therefore been rising. I suppose he could follow the Bush formula for lowering gas prices, i.e. destroy the world's economy, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Gas has been going up steadily since obama seized power. His anti oil policies have investors running up oil prices because they look into the future and see America using more oil and producing less, that's how markets work.
    Please, tell me how Obama "seized power." And can you provide any proof of these "anti-oil policies?"
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

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    Obama seized power? How did I miss the coup?

    Gas prices have mostly been going up because the economy has been recovering and demand has therefore been rising. I suppose he could follow the Bush formula for lowering gas prices, i.e. destroy the world's economy, but I wouldn't recommend it.

    Its not a demand problem. Its an infrastructure problem.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Obama has talked about getting the US off our oil dependency but it's a slow process that in the short run will drive up prices. Trying to protect the environment against domestic offshore and the Keystone type pipelines is costing us some valuable oil resources though it's still a small percentage of our total daily use. But trust me fighting the oil industry for alternative energy sources is going to be the real battle because they don't want to lose their profit machine and their reach goes far into the halls of power worldwide. There's no easy solution because too much infrastructure and economic stimulation are oil driven, whereas an alternative like recharging batteries makes very little impact in comparison. And as long as viable electric vehicles are priced out of reach for a weak economy and average consumer there won't be a change.

    Even if every auto manufacturer offered a couple of nice $12-19k electric compacts, hatchbacks, small sedans and mini SUV's, saving trips to the gas station it would still take 10-15 years for people to completely cycle out of fuel driven vehicles. Until then expect to start getting raped at the gas stations in the future as the fight for oil reserve's begins to really intensify.
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Obama has talked about getting the US off our oil dependency but it's a slow process that in the short run will drive up prices. Trying to protect the environment against domestic offshore and the Keystone type pipelines is costing us some valuable oil resources though it's still a small percentage of our total daily use. But trust me fighting the oil industry for alternative energy sources is going to be the real battle because they don't want to lose their profit machine and their reach goes far into the halls of power worldwide. There's no easy solution because too much infrastructure and economic stimulation are oil driven, whereas an alternative like recharging batteries makes very little impact in comparison. And as long as viable electric vehicles are priced out of reach for a weak economy and average consumer there won't be a change.

    Even if every auto manufacturer offered a couple of nice $12-19k electric compacts, hatchbacks, small sedans and mini SUV's, saving trips to the gas station it would still take 10-15 years for people to completely cycle out of fuel driven vehicles. Until then expect to start getting raped at the gas stations in the future as the fight for oil reserve's begins to really intensify.
    The oil industry will become the alternative energy industry when oil starts to run out. Or did you think they would just fold? Also, please read the previous link, as it will show that production isn't down, and demand isn't up, so "Obama's policies" on oil use/production isn't causing the price hike.

    Right now, there isn't a market for an alternative to oil on a profitable scale. That's why we've seen plenty of "green" bankruptcies and the tanking of electric cars(Leaf, Volt). There isn't money to be made in that realm despite the government's best effort at subsidizing the sector. The tech just isn't ready for mass production and consumption.

    On top of that, our infrastructure isn't ready for a spike in electrical demand. We are shuttering coal fired power plants left and right, shifting their production to existing facilities, pushing the limits of production. Until we can increase our electrical production, develop better electrical storage facilities on both a small footprint and large, we aren't ready for non-fuel driven vehicles.
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    In fact, it does just such a thing. Unfortunately, due to opposition by the Republican members of the CFTC, it doesn't do it strongly enough.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Gas has been going up steadily since obama seized power. His anti oil policies have investors running up oil prices because they look into the future and see America using more oil and producing less, that's how markets work.
    If his "Anti oil" policies were the only problem, oil wouldn't have went to $145 under Bush.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obama seized power? How did I miss the coup?

    Gas prices have mostly been going up because the economy has been recovering and demand has therefore been rising. I suppose he could follow the Bush formula for lowering gas prices, i.e. destroy the world's economy, but I wouldn't recommend it.
    That is the formula rising oil prices are going to lead us to.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Obama has talked about getting the US off our oil dependency but it's a slow process that in the short run will drive up prices.
    There is absolutely no reason we must take an either/or position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The oil industry will become the alternative energy industry when oil starts to run out. Or did you think they would just fold? Also, please read the previous link, as it will show that production isn't down, and demand isn't up, so "Obama's policies" on oil use/production isn't causing the price hike.
    There is no reason why we have to wait until oil runs out.
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

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    You can't fix stupid
    Unfortunately you righties have a serious problem there. The candidates you're running out there personify it.

    Still, independents are freaking out over your abortion of a president, so I wouldn't count your chickens before they come home to roost, as your beloved Reverend Wright would say.
    4 more years. Chew on that.
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