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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    [...] Thousands of busses could be bought and operated in a city for what a simple rail line cost.
    Yeah, but then the bus drivers would form a union, and the Republicans would be all pissed off all over again

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's your strawman.

    I've said nothing about America oil companies being bad nor anything about Russian/Chinese/cuban oil drilling.

    What I've actually stated and no one has disproved, is there has not been a single year under either party since 1971 when the US produced more oil than it consumes.

    And that the big Western oil companies would not be back in Iraq for the first time in over 3 decades without our war on Iraq. They were kicked out when Iraq nationalized its oil.

    Mission accomplished!!!!
    The irony is that, even now, Iraq's oil production is not back to pre-invasion levels. Thanks, W!
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill, in post #389 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    About 70% of the construction and maintenance costs of highways in the U.S. are covered through user fees (net of collection costs), primarily fuel taxes collected by the federal government and state and local governments, and to a much lesser extent tolls collected on toll roads and bridges.
    So, since we can assume the other 30% comes from the general fund(s), your claim below is wrong:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill, in post #368 View Post
    [...] NO, we all pay for the trains whether we ride on them or not. If you don't drive, you don't pay for highways.
    If you don't drive, you do pay (30%). However, most everybody drives, making your point practically pointless.

    And even if you didn't drive, part of your bus fare / taxi fare / airplane fare would include the transporters cost of fuel, including fuel taxes, which really means you have no point at all. Even the cost of food includes the fuel tax that was incurred delivering it from the farm to the processing plant to the store. Rather than no point, you seem to have a negative point... quantum theory may be required to determine just how much of a non-point you have presented.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What I've actually stated and no one has disproved, is there has not been a single year under either party since 1971 when the US produced more oil than it consumes.
    Yes, you are just not honest about the real reasons why that is.

    And that the big Western oil companies would not be back in Iraq for the first time in over 3 decades without our war on Iraq. They were kicked out when Iraq nationalized its oil.

    Oh get off it...The 'war for oil' meme was debunked long ago...

    Mission accomplished!!!!
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The irony is that, even now, Iraq's oil production is not back to pre-invasion levels. Thanks, W!
    Not yet, but the potential is there with exploitation by big oil:

    The World's Biggest Oil Reserves

    HOUSTON -- "This month Iraq will finalize contracts with the likes of ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell and BP to develop some of its biggest oil fields. These giants are among the world's last remaining pockets of so-called "easy oil." They don't require ultradeep drilling or innovative production techniques, just the application of Big Oil know-how. No wonder the oil companies agreed to develop Iraq's fields without even getting an ownership stake in the fields and collecting as little as $1.15 per barrel recovered.

    Given the size of Iraq's undeveloped giants there are no technical reasons why within 10 years the country can't supplant both Iran and Russia to become the world's No. 2 oil producer after Saudi Arabia. No wonder Iraq holds three of the top 10 fields of the future."

    The World's Biggest Oil Reserves - Forbes.com
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, you are just not honest about the real reasons why that is.

    Everyone in the world knows why that is, except for the far right wing conservatives.
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Your Chart from the lefty Marxists at UCSD is wrong....Gas price was lower than they show on the chart in 2008.
    No it wasn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by cthomp View Post
    We have plenty of oil in this country to drill. [...]
    No we don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I think that they are purposely skewing their own chart there in the interest of so called "Energy Justice".... BTW, what the hell is a supposed law school doing preparing empirical data on energy to in their own words drive policy? They are skewed, they are anti American energy, and they are IMHO trash.
    But at least they aren't trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The data is wrong.
    No it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [...] Oh get off it...The 'war for oil' meme was debunked long ago... [...]
    No it wasn't.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Great replies....Nuh uh....!


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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I think that they are purposely skewing their own chart there in the interest of so called "Energy Justice".... BTW, what the hell is a supposed law school doing preparing empirical data on energy to in their own words drive policy? They are skewed, they are anti American energy, and they are IMHO trash.
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    Why is it that while Obama has increased far more domestic oil production than the oil man, W. Bush, gas prices haven't fallen? People keep saying "drill, baby drill" will solve the problem. Obama is drilling like hell, but the price continues to climb. What the hell is up with that?

    And if anyone is "anti American energy" it's the people who criticize Obama's attempt to develop alternative American energy. This is energy we can make right here in the US with American workers doing American jobs with American knowhow, providing for fellow Americans. With Obama's programs in full swing, we can tell the middle-eastern freakshow to kiss our ass. What could possibly be more Pro-American that that?
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Why is it that while Obama has increased far more domestic oil production than the oil man, W. Bush, gas prices haven't fallen? People keep saying "drill, baby drill" will solve the problem. Obama is drilling like hell, but the price continues to climb. What the hell is up with that?
    What's up with that? It's BS that's what.

    And if anyone is "anti American energy" it's the people who criticize Obama's attempt to develop alternative American energy. This is energy we can make right here in the US with American workers doing American jobs with American knowhow, providing for fellow Americans. With Obama's programs in full swing, we can tell the middle-eastern freakshow to kiss our ass. What could possibly be more Pro-American that that?
    Hey, you got something you think will work, by ALL means get busy developing it. But....(*ahem*) and let me capitalize this so you can get it right....DON'T CUT OFF CURRENT METHOD OF ENERGY SO THAT YOU CAN FURTHER YOUR AGENDA!!!!!


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