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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88, replying to another View Post
    It breaks even more or less. [...]
    Irrelevant in the final analysis, which requires the calculation of the total life cycle cost to society (total cost to the economy, if you like) for various options (freeway, bus, light rail, teleportation device , etc).

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

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    Local issue (Higher CAFE = smaller cars = less profit per car for Detroit).
    So what? They were still (D)'s.

    Environmental issues (safety and waster).

    Fail x 2.
    France has seemed to make it work just fine. Oh, and it actually works.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Interstate highways are mostly paid for with usage fees.
    Well, where I'm from there's another word for those "usage fees." They're called "gas taxes."

    So it all gobbles up taxes. You can call it a usage fee if you want, but it's a tax. Tim Pawlenty raised cigarette taxes here and justified it by calling it a "health impact fee." Then he ran for President saying he never raised taxes. BS. Call it a fee if you want, but it's a tax.


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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry, replying to Karl View Post
    So what? They were still (D)'s.

    France has seemed to make it work just fine. Oh, and it actually works.
    Obtuse x 2

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Obama's energy department recently approved the first all-new nuke plant in this country in the last 40-something years....
    And higher CAFE ratings easily passed. Both being positive turn of events for both parties. Neither negates past actions.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Obtuse x 2
    Them's the facts. Sorry.

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Gasoline taxes, which in fact don't come close to paying for the highways ... are are paying for less every year due to more efficient cars and trucks.
    Actually, they pay for 70% of the construction and maintenance costs.

    Want to compare that to light rail ??

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, where I'm from there's another word for those "usage fees." They're called "gas taxes."

    So it all gobbles up taxes. You can call it a usage fee if you want, but it's a tax. Tim Pawlenty raised cigarette taxes here and justified it by calling it a "health impact fee." Then he ran for President saying he never raised taxes. BS. Call it a fee if you want, but it's a tax.
    Do light rail passengers pay a usage tax that pays for 70% of the cost to build and operate light rail ??

    NO, we all pay for the trains whether we ride on them or not. If you don't drive, you don't pay for highways.

    See the difference ??
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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    According the memo from the GOP / RNC media strategy, pundits are supped to blame gas prices on Obama.

    Does Fox News get paid by the GOP?

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    Re: Gas prices are highest ever for this time of year

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Them's the facts. Sorry.
    Don't confuse him.

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