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    Re: For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Sure, but we're dealing in averages here.
    On average, married families do better than unmarried.

    There's no denying that.
    This is confusing correlation with causation and is no reason why a couple should get married when they otherwise would not.
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    Re: For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But perhaps you're mixing up causes. It's not that a couple that doesn't get married is more likely to break up. It's that a couple that's more likely to break up doesn't get married. As we've discussed, marriage is less rewarding than it used to be. A woman doesn't need to marry in order to survive, and being unwed does not keep a person locked out of society. The ratio of risk and reward is tilted far more towards risk than it used to be.

    So, the couples that aren't as sure about a financial future together, marriage is too big a risk. The article specifically stated that the risk is becoming too large for poorer couples to undertake. So what are these poorer couples to do? Must they refrain from attempting to build a life together unless they will take a huge financial risk? Must they remain abstinent? Must they give up their children? To say yes to any of those suggests that the right to love and have sex and reproduce must be purchased, and is reserved for those who can afford it.

    Marriage seems to be an indicator of a stable household, not a cause of it. And the real cause looks to be money. Families that are not struggling to get by are the ones that last.
    That's what I'm getting at, people who get married and stay married tend to have the behaviors which lead to raising a successful, productive family.
    The risk for getting married is largely in the male counterparts direction, a man has significant risk, while the female doesn't (apart from the rare chance of abuse, relatively speaking.)

    Poor people can get married for less than $100 is they wanted, but that's not the issue.
    It's that they tend not to get married because they don't prioritize the important things in life, more than not poor people.
    Behavior, that's the cause of all these statistics.
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    Re: For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    This is confusing correlation with causation and is no reason why a couple should get married when they otherwise would not.
    I'm not saying getting married automatically equals success.
    I'm saying that those who get married and stay married are more likely to be successful because of their underlying behavior.
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