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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    agreed. they should be required to watch the procedure. so, when (if they are advanced far enough) their baby tries frantically to avoid the saw, they can observe first hand in raw honesty what they are doing.

    if what you're doing is so horrible that you can't stand to become aware of it... maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
    Just a "strawman" question, since "scenarios" are being played here to garner sympathy for something attached and growing in a womb that isn't wanted:

    Your daughter has been raped. Lets make it a really good strawman, shall we? Say the guy that raped your daughter was your husband. Or an uncle. She is under much stress. She has been affected so badly, she is determined to remove the growth inside her as soon as the tests come back that yes, she is pregnant. Will you insist she have the baby and dismiss HER needs? Force her to carry to term so the kid can be adopted no matter how badly it affects HER mental state? Or do you do what is best for HER well being and let HER choose?

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    agreed. they should be required to watch the procedure. so, when (if they are advanced far enough) their baby tries frantically to avoid the saw, they can observe first hand in raw honesty what they are doing.

    if what you're doing is so horrible that you can't stand to become aware of it... maybe you shouldn't be doing it.
    By the same token the father who must be responsible for the raising of the child be given a projection of the financial burden, the emotional and familial responsibility to digest and then allow the two parties to discuss this.

    The law is just so wrong in may ways. It handcuffs the physician, the woman is scapegoated and the child who may become the responsibility of the state is hardly thought of.

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    I offer to adopt the child myself; and since she's my daughter, she probably moves back in with us while she's pregnant. Asking a mother not to kill her child does not require dismissing her needs.

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's simple?

    So what's the definition of life, then - what makes something alive and something not alive?

    A heartbeat, lungs, self awareness, cellular development, sensations, thoughts?

    Scientists can't even agree on what exactly defines life - but I guess you have knowledge they don't have so anytime you'd like to share this secret you've learned I'd like to read your research papers on it.
    It's only complicated for those who want to justify abortion. Human life begins at conception.


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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I offer to adopt the child myself; and since she's my daughter, she probably moves back in with us while she's pregnant. Asking a mother not to kill her child does not require dismissing her needs.
    Would you at 15 years old? or if you were a rapist? or if the child were to be so disabled the only merciful thing would be to abort the fetus. There are parental rights which trump a grandparent's rights.
    Last edited by Connery; 02-20-12 at 12:37 AM.

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I offer to adopt the child myself; and since she's my daughter, she probably moves back in with us while she's pregnant. Asking a mother not to kill her child does not require dismissing her needs.
    You are not looking at the bigger picture. Your daughter DOES NOT WANT TO CARRY THIS CHILD. So you would insist she does, eh?

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    This is why abortion threads suck.

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    You are not looking at the bigger picture. Your daughter DOES NOT WANT TO CARRY THIS CHILD. So you would insist she does, eh?
    I would. You shouldn't kill your child simply because it would make you uncomfortable or inconvenience you.


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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    This is why abortion threads suck.
    Pun intended?


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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I would. You shouldn't kill your child simply because it would make you uncomfortable or inconvenience you.
    Thankfully, you are not my mother.

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