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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    It does have its place. I never said otherwise. So does foster parenting. I have nothing against it. I would just like to make it easier for women to be able to keep their children and not have to give them up just because of their financial situation. I can't help how my personal and admittedly completely anecdotal experience with adoption has shaped my perception of it. It's not a one size fits all solution.


    What about true education of the ramifications of having a child when you are not prepared to have one? See, we seem to be searching for ways to shrug responsibility for actions, when we know full well what the consequences of that action results in.


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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I'll answer that one.
    Yep. I knew. And they could have forced me to look at pics and hear the heartbeat and I still would have done it.

    There ya go. Straightforward answer if there ever was one. No pussyfootin' around.
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Governments have no ****ing right to force unnecessary and unwanted medical procedures on anybody. End of story.
    Do you understand that's exactly how pro-life people feel about those who force a "medical procedure" on a child? This ultrasound merely makes the woman uncomfortable for awhile. An abortion ends the life of a child.
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    By the way, I'm not for the government forcing anyone to have a medical procedure either. I'm also not for the government allowing doctors to suck a human life out of a woman without any consequences. The government should be about protecting the freedom of ALL humans - even the very tiniest.
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Another step in the right direction.
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Do you understand that's exactly how pro-life people feel about those who force a "medical procedure" on a child? This ultrasound merely makes the woman uncomfortable for awhile. An abortion ends the life of a child.
    But Josie, why should they have to endure a medically unnecessary procedure to undergo a legal medical procedure?
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What about true education of the ramifications of having a child when you are not prepared to have one? See, we seem to be searching for ways to shrug responsibility for actions, when we know full well what the consequences of that action results in.


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    I'm all for education on all aspects of the issue. Better education on birth control, better access to birth control, better information on what having a child means for your heart, body, mind AND wallet, more emphasis on the responsibility that men have in not getting a girl pregnant, better information on the consequences of choosing abortion, not just the availability of that choice. My main concern is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and therefore the number of abortions. I wish for just one generation that will do all it can to avoid the need for an abortion. I just don't think we're doing it right. We're not giving our kids the tools they need to be that generation.
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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    But Josie, why should they have to endure a medically unnecessary procedure to undergo a legal medical procedure?
    An abortion isn't just a medical procedure. It's not just removal of tissue or a tumor. No one would ever say that everyone with a brain tumor should have to SEE it before it's removed. That's stupid. The reason this procedure is important is because it's LIFE inside. It's a game changer. It's completely different than any other surgery.

    If the state of Texas wants to try to save lives of unborn children by requiring women to have an ultrasound to see their baby, I'm all for it.


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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    An abortion isn't just a medical procedure.....
    sure it is, especially the early ones.

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    Re: Texas law requires women to hear description of fetus before abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    ...If the state of Texas wants to try to save lives of unborn children by requiring women to have an ultrasound to see their baby, I'm all for it.
    so you support the government requiring people, under penalty of prison, to undergo a totally elective procedure which includes a tool being shoves up their vagina?

    and the fact that this is for PURELY ideological reasons, doesn't phase you?

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