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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    let's have Iran negotiate domestic US nuclear policy...

    and get rid of double standards...
    Yes, because there is a moral equivalency between a medieval theocracy that employs secret police and suppresses dissidents with violence and a functioning, if imperfect, democracy. Do you people have no perspective at all? Or do you really find Iran an admirable place that can be relied upon to possess nuclear weapons? That last question, by the way, is rhetorical. Of course you do.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    'a' dodge?

    I'm sure you can do more...
    Look, your loathing for the United States and your desire to see Iran prospering as a nuclear nation is crystal clear. Hoping for a quick strike on Tel Aviv to solve all of the middle east's problems in one instant?
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    "The U.S. has about 5% of the world’s population, yet the U.S. accounts for about 50% of global military spending. China and India, two countries with the potential to dominate global economics, have 37% of the population but only account for 9% of global military spending. Such a disproportionate relationship begs the question, has the U.S. lost its ability to persuade with reason and to lead by example?"



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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The U.S. has about 5% of the world’s population, yet the U.S. accounts for about 50% of global military spending. China and India, two countries with the potential to dominate global economics, have 37% of the population but only account for 9% of global military spending. Such a disproportionate relationship begs the question, has the U.S. lost its ability to persuade with reason and to lead by example?"



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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yes, because there is a moral equivalency between a medieval theocracy that employs secret police and suppresses dissidents with violence and a functioning, if imperfect, democracy. Do you people have no perspective at all? Or do you really find Iran an admirable place that can be relied upon to possess nuclear weapons? That last question, by the way, is rhetorical. Of course you do.
    less than half of Americans vote...

    Look, your loathing for the United States and your desire to see Iran prospering as a nuclear nation is crystal clear. Hoping for a quick strike on Tel Aviv to solve all of the middle east's problems in one instant?
    Wow... put away the tussin...

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Exporting imperialism costs money.
    Yes, I have seen the national debt grow over the last 30 years as a result of the costs of exporting imperialism. How long can we continue to afford to do that before we go the way the USSR did???
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Still drinking the Republicon Kool-Aid, aye ... well like Iraq and WMD you've been duped again, but 60% of the public or more is not buying the fear campaign and wants to leave Afghanistan/Pakistan, they know the perpetual warfare excuses are a smokescreen for gas companies stranglehold over Washington.

    Well, its clear now why the NeoCons in the PNAC document needed a "new Pearl Harbor," so they and Obama/Hillary could always fall back on that 9/11 false flag, as justification to start all the oil wars they want.
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    You presume much. Your Daalek circuitry needs a reboot. I want to get out of Afghanistan as much as any one else. I've said so in other threads. I also want to avoid oil wars as much as anybody else and I've expressed that vehemently in other threads. Still think I'm drinking the punch?

    The situation with Iran is not an "oil war." It's over the "possible" development of nuclear weapons by Iran (not the same thing as access to oil). No one, including myself, wants a conflict with Iran. We have other, domestic, concerns to worry about without worrying about an insignificant, tin-plated, petty theocracy like Iran. Unfortunately, this insignificant country sees itself as THE middle-eastern superpower and foolishly believes that possession of nuclear power and long range missiles will make it a superpower. This is naive at best. Ultimately this will create more problems for Iran than it solves.
    Yes, like I said, Kool-Aid. With Hillary pushing for regime change all over the world, using the cover of American funded NGO's and color revolutions, do you think the State Dept./DoD wants anything less in Iran?

    Go to a search engine and type in "Total Spectrum Dominance" and you'll find the true NeoCon objective behind all US policy machinery. Wikileaks already exposed much of this.

    Iran is not about oil?

    Heh, heh. The whole point is to cut off and take control of the entirety of Russian supply/ influence in the region. Never go by what politicians say, what they do is the important thing. And this is the age of 1984, so politicians talk in Newspeak.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post

    Iran is not about oil?

    Heh, heh. The whole point is to cut off and take control of the entirety of Russian supply/ influence in the region. Never go by what politicians say, what they do is the important thing. And this is the age of 1984, so politicians talk in Newspeak.
    Cut off the Russian supply? Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. You do realize that Russia is the number one "producer" of oil in the world, yes? They don't need Iranian oil. Stopping Iranian nuclear ambitions will not cutoff Russia from anything.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Cut off the Russian supply? Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. You do realize that Russia is the number one "producer" of oil in the world, yes? They don't need Iranian oil. Stopping Iranian nuclear ambitions will not cutoff Russia from anything.
    Saudi Arabia surpasses Russia in oil production


    Russia oil imports:

    "Oil - imports: 42,750 bbl/day (2009 est.)

    Definition: This entry is the total oil imported in barrels per day (bbl/day), including both crude oil and oil products.

    Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of January 9, 2012"
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Saudi Arabia surpasses Russia in oil production

    Russia oil imports:

    "Oil - imports: 42,750 bbl/day (2009 est.)

    Definition: This entry is the total oil imported in barrels per day (bbl/day), including both crude oil and oil products.

    Source: CIA World Factbook - Unless otherwise noted, information in this page is accurate as of January 9, 2012"
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    Okay, Russia had been the top producer for the last 6 years and now they've switched places. My point is, Russia doesn't need Iranian oil. Stopping Iranian nuclear fuel development will not cut off Russia's source of oil.
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