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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?
    Iran was offered nuclear fuel rods, complete and ready to install, in exchange for its enriched uranium.
    But they want to make their own....you have to wonder about that.....
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    in your opinion, of course.....
    Israel is a one nuke country....if any ONE Arab country succeeds in launching even ONE nuclear armed missle and it explodes over Israel, you can bet that the Middle East will become the proverbial "sea of glass".....
    I don't know that Israel is a one nuke country. Which Arab countries have nukes?

    As to the ME becoming a sea of glass, how is that a concern of the U.S?










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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    The issue is that Iran is a threat to the USA because they have been killing US servicemen for years, not who is supplying whom with arms.
    No. You are deflecting. The reason the U.S. is beating war drums has to do with Iran's supposed nuclear program. It has nothing to do with whether or not Iran has been killing U.S. servicemen for years.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Saudis have always had easy access to US visas because they hav been sending Saudi students to the US since 1952.

    In short they got preferential treatment.

    Those Arabs could have been from Yemen or simply Hajj overstayers.

    The SAG government spends 90% of the oil revenue on infrastructure in Saudi Arabia.. like power plants, housing, hospitals, universities, roads, railroads, water treatment plants, desalination plants, solar farms, historic preservation.. and 300 dam to capture ground water.

    They are providing 250,000 Graduate level scholarships to European and US schools in the fields of finance, science and engineering, Medicine and international law.

    They also make soft loans for small business development.. That's why manufacturing has exploded in the kingdom since 2007.. They now have 500,000 factory workers.

    I really like the Sudeiri Seven.. They have an amazing track record over the past 70 years... and they are dedicated to the social and economic progress of the people.
    and then there is this.....
    a highly educated work force without private sector jobs thanks to low wages being paid to guest workers...most Saudis with jobs work for the govt....do you think that might affect the price of oil?

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I don't know that Israel is a one nuke country. Which Arab countries have nukes?

    As to the ME becoming a sea of glass, how is that a concern of the U.S?
    "one nuke" means that Israel is so small that one nuclear weapon might be enough to destroy it......so Iran only needs one...
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Iran was offered nuclear fuel rods, complete and ready to install, in exchange for its enriched uranium.
    But they want to make their own....you have to wonder about that.....
    I have to wonder about that information. (Thank you for it.) Here's what I found, though:

    Ria Novosti quoted the Deputy Head of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran, saying that Iran produced the 20-percent-enriched fuel rods because Western countries had refused to assist Iran. He added that the Ferdoo nuclear facility has also begun operation under the inspection of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
    http://www.payvand.com/news/12/feb/1170.html

    This smells like the exact same position we put Iraq into. "We don't believe you. We have "evidence." I smell a rat. Honestly, I do.

    Are they not entitled to nuclear energy? Research? I mean really. Their main enemy has nukes, so even if that was their goal, unless we are willing to step up and say, "We'll side with you if Israel attacks," who are we to stop them anyway?

    In fact. Why aren't we saying that?? To both sides?? "If either of them sends missiles toward the other. If that area's so damned important (which, of course, it is), then we don't need to pick winners. We just need peace. What good are our storehouses of nukes...all of our technology...if we can't assure peace? Or a very Very VERY short war?
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    As to the ME becoming a sea of glass, how is that a concern of the U.S?
    Well, considering that the Middle East is currently the world's major source of petroleum, and the world uses petroleum-based fuels to run the engines in, well, a ****-load of machinery including automobiles and tractors, the last of which is used to cultivate the crops that feed the people of the world, it's pretty ****ing important.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The reason the U.S. is beating war drums has to do with Iran's supposed nuclear program.
    Or that the Pentagon and/or private defense contractors wants to keep justifying high defense budgets.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and then there is this.....
    a highly educated work force without private sector jobs thanks to low wages being paid to guest workers...most Saudis with jobs work for the govt....do you think that might affect the price of oil?

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    I don't know who Ellen Knickmeyer is.. but she is painting a very negative view.

    Affect the price of oil? As their standard of living has improved.. of course it has.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Or that the Pentagon and/or private defense contractors wants to keep justifying high defense budgets.

    Can you provide the data that supports your position?

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