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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My point, that Iran is of no military threat to the US, is made by the absence of and such declaration of threat by the US or by the UN. You have yet to present in evidence to the contrary.

    As David Stockman pointed out on GPS today, Iran is not part of the Axis of Evil, they are part of the Axis of Midevil, because they are so backward technologically.

    Hahahahahahah, that's why the entire world is worried about their midevil nuclear program.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We still have 5,000 active nukes after 40 years. Many do not consider this living up to the intent of the treaty. Additionally, we had our nukes aimed at North Korea when they were a member of the NPT, and we currently have subs with nukes aimed at Iran, an NPT member, which is also a violation of the treaty.

    We and the other superpowers have to be a better role models if we expect compliance.
    How do you know where the military has its nukes pointed? Sources?
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    The real issue isn't Iran, its Iran's affect on the region as a whole. Iran could get nukes just to have them, but it would destablize the rest of the region (kinda like when Isreal occupied Leb) and the fact that Iran tetters on the edge of being a failed state.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hahahahahahah, that's why the entire world is worried about their midevil nuclear program.

    The entire world is worried about Iran's military threat huh????

    What the entire world is worrying about is Israel or the US doing something stupid that would cause oil prices in the Middle East to spike, furthering the world's economic recession
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

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    How do you know where the military has its nukes pointed? Sources?
    "The U.S. also had nuclear warheads targeted at North Korea, a non-NWS, from 1959 until 1991. The previous United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon, has also explicitly invoked the possibility of the use of the country's nuclear weapons in response to a non-conventional attack by "rogue states".[8] In January 2006, President Jacques Chirac of France indicated that an incident of state-sponsored terrorism on France could trigger a small-scale nuclear retaliation aimed at destroying the "rogue state's" power centers."
    Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Israel deploys nuclear cruise missiles near Iran"
    (Gulp) Israel deploys nuclear cruise missiles near Iran | Mondoweiss


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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    The real issue isn't Iran, its Iran's affect on the region as a whole. Iran could get nukes just to have them, but it would destablize the rest of the region (kinda like when Isreal occupied Leb) and the fact that Iran tetters on the edge of being a failed state.
    What would make the region more disestablished is an Israeli/US strike on Iran.

    BRZEZINSKI: "So we don't need to go to war, and we have to make that very clear to our Israeli friends. We're not going to go to war. They're not going to go to war by flying over our airspace over Iraq. We're not going to support them. If they do it, they'll be on their own. The consequences would be theirs, because the price we'll all pay if they start a massive war, which the Iranians interpret as being done with our connivance, would be disastrous for us in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in terms of oil, stability in the Middle East more generally."

    "I think it all depends on how determined, clear- headed and explicit the United States is. If we drift, if we fuss, the word's over, if we are ambiguous, it could end up very, very badly. If the United States is clear cut, if it makes it very clear to the Iranians that they're not going to be a part of the global community, if they persist in violating the NPT.

    But, if at the same time we don't offer them only the choice of capitulation or strangulation, which would force them to lash out, and if we at the same time make it clear that if they continue with their investigations and research and perhaps weapons development, we will, in any case, guarantee the security of the Middle East, including that of Israel. The way we have done it for Japan and South Korea, very effectively over the years."



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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Didn't this already happen? I heard that gas spiked recently with prices raging from 4.40$/gal to even 5$ in some places. (in the US)
    In Europe they raise the price every week like it's normal. :/

    And since, those 5 millions of emails from Stratfor were leaked yesterday, they provided proof how Israel already destroyed Iran's nuclear program sometime ago. So what's all the hype still about? Some sort of strategic game?

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That sounds a lot worse than it probably is. I believe all US SSN's carry nuclear tipped torpedoes making them technically "nuclear armed". Won't do much against land forces, though. It would be good for clearing the Straight if Iran were stupid enough to sink a ship there.

    I seriously doubt there are any Ohio class submarines (SSBN) operating within 200 miles of a coastline anywhere unless they are coming from or returning to base. Ohio's leave home and then hide, that's their #1 mission. They don't need to play tag in the Gulf to hit a target in Iran, anyway. An Ohio could hit Baghdad from Australia if it had to.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The U.S. also had nuclear warheads targeted at North Korea, a non-NWS, from 1959 until 1991. The previous United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon, has also explicitly invoked the possibility of the use of the country's nuclear weapons in response to a non-conventional attack by "rogue states".[8] In January 2006, President Jacques Chirac of France indicated that an incident of state-sponsored terrorism on France could trigger a small-scale nuclear retaliation aimed at destroying the "rogue state's" power centers."
    Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I see something about North Korea 20 years ago, that France would use nukes on anyone who uses nukes on them, and nothing about the US aiming nukes at Iran.
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    "Israel deploys nuclear cruise missiles near Iran"
    (Gulp) Israel deploys nuclear cruise missiles near Iran | Mondoweiss
    How does Philip Weiss know about the armament configuration of Israeli subs? Just because a sub can be nuclear-armed doesn't mean it is. What are Philip Weiss' credentials? Is he an insider into Israeli operational procedures?

    Nice video of a periscope. No markings anywhere. Not nearly enough is seen for positive identification. That might have been an Iranian sub for all we know. It seems mighty convenient for the periscope to look directly at the boat, but stay there to pose for video.

    On the other hand, I think we do have subs operating in the Persian Gulf. But when we call them "nuclear subs" we are referring to their power plant, not necessarily how they are armed. That's classified information that the press cannot know about.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. You are deflecting. The reason the U.S. is beating war drums has to do with Iran's supposed nuclear program. It has nothing to do with whether or not Iran has been killing U.S. servicemen for years.
    It looks a lot to me like the Iranians, led by their Mad Mullahs, are the ones beating the war drums. The fact that Iran has been killing U.S. servicemen for years is just another aspect of that regime that those of you on the Far Left find so charming.

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