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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Exactly. What business does Barack Obama have sending US troops to occupy Libya?
    There aren't any US troops in Libya.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Exactly. What business does Barack Obama have sending US troops to occupy Libya?
    we occupy libya! who knew?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Not sure what sovereignty has to do with culture; not sure what it is about their religion that deserves my respect; not sure what it is about their governance that deserves my respect; any respect I have for human life is not going to be reciprocated; and natural resources have nothing to do with culture either. So, I guess we agree then that there is nothing about their culture that is really deserving of any respect.
    I agree we should respect all cultures. And I disagree that the US has no other allies in ME from Muslim countries. Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, and Jordan enjoy positive relations with the US. The US has supplied all three with weapon systems, food, and humanitarian support for years. When Kuwait was under attack by Iraq, the US went in to repel the invaders. The US provided this from bases in Saudi bases (sounds like cooperation to me) where female military members were required to respect Saudi customs.

    All this sounds like we have allies in the ME other than Israel, and that we have respected Muslim customs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Not sure what sovereignty has to do with culture; not sure what it is about their religion that deserves my respect; not sure what it is about their governance that deserves my respect; any respect I have for human life is not going to be reciprocated; and natural resources have nothing to do with culture either. So, I guess we agree then that there is nothing about their culture that is really deserving of any respect.
    And anything we have done to Iran you would expect the US to accept in reverse?










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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I agree we should respect all cultures. And I disagree that the US has no other allies in ME from Muslim countries. Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, and Jordan enjoy positive relations with the US. The US has supplied all three with weapon systems, food, and humanitarian support for years. When Kuwait was under attack by Iraq, the US went in to repel the invaders. The US provided this from bases in Saudi bases (sounds like cooperation to me) where female military members were required to respect Saudi customs.

    All this sounds like we have allies in the ME other than Israel, and that we have respected Muslim customs.
    Actually.. we sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and they don't get any humanitarian support.. never have.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    we occupy libya! who knew?
    Repson has some double secret information he can't share with the rest of us.










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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If giving weapons to someone's enemies is a horrible atrocity, then consider us the worst people in the world. So they took a play out of our playbook, is it that big of a deal?
    Does a totalitarian regime really have the same moral standing and thus rights to do the same thing. If the US bombs the taliban, then they have the right to bomb the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Does a totalitarian regime really have the same moral standing and thus rights to do the same thing. If the US bombs the taliban, then they have the right to bomb the US?
    If you bomb someone expect them to try and bomb you back.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Does a totalitarian regime really have the same moral standing and thus rights to do the same thing. If the US bombs the taliban, then they have the right to bomb the US?
    Uh... Yes? I tend to take the non-egocentric approach. I don't think that the US is the law, the moral standard, and the only opinon that matters. The world was not created by us, it does not spin around us, and our sh*t does in fact stink. The sole goal in life of the Taliban is to get the US out of Afghanistan. Yes, I probably would consider them somewhat morally justified if they were to actually bomb us back. I don't know why people think that we have some God-given right to attack other people, but how dare they attack us back.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok
    i had read it
    and my informed response is you have nothing to prove that the iranian military is waging a campaign against American troops in afghanistan
    Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - Jeffrey Goldberg - International - The Atlantic

    Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan
    By Jeffrey Goldberg

    Jul 6 2011, 8:43 AM ET

    Just so we're absolutely clear about the nature of the Iranian regime, here are two reports about Iranian efforts to kill American soldiers. From The Wall Street Journal:

    The Revolutionary Guard has smuggled rocket-assisted exploding projectiles to its militia allies in Iraq, weapons that have already resulted in the deaths of American troops, defense officials said. They said Iranians have also given long-range rockets to the Taliban in Afghanistan, increasing the insurgents' ability to hit U.S. and other coalition positions from a safer distance.

    Such arms shipments would escalate the shadow competition for influence playing out between Tehran and Washington across the Middle East and North Africa, fueled by U.S. preparations to draw down forces from two wars and the political rebellions that are sweeping the region.

    And from The Washington Post:

    James F. Jeffrey, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, said Tuesday that fresh forensic testing on weapons used in the latest deadly attacks in the country bolsters assertions by U.S. officials that Iran is supporting Iraqi insurgents with new weapons and training.

    "We're not talking about a smoking pistol. There is no doubt this is Iranian," Jeffrey said in an interview.
    "We're seeing more lethal weapons, more accurate weapons, more longer-range weapons," Jeffrey added. "And we're seeing more sophisticated mobile and other deployment options, and we're seeing better-trained people."

    What does this mean? It means that Iran is waging war against the United States of America. Or, to put it another way, it means that Iran doesn't seem particularly interested in entering into a dialogue with the Obama Administration at the moment. Unless, of course, this is just a cry for help.
    Report: Iran smuggled weapons to Iraq, Afghanistan - Israel News, Ynetnews

    The Iranian military smuggled new deadly munitions to its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent months in order to accelerate the US withdrawals from these countries, The Wall Street Journal reported

    Citing unnamed US officials, the newspaper said the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has supplied its allies with rocket-assisted projectiles, which have already killed American troops.

    The officials said Iranians had also given long-range rockets to the Taliban in Afghanistan, increasing the insurgents' ability to hit US and other coalition positions from a safer distance, the report said.
    Iran smuggles weapons to Iraq, Afghanistan | Times of Ummah - News, Sports, Education, Business, Entertainment of Muslim Ummah

    WASHINGTON The Iranian military smuggled new deadly munitions to its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent months in order to to accelerate the US withdrawals from these countries, The Wall Street Journal reported late Friday

    Citing unnamed US officials, the newspaper said the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has supplied its allies with rocket-assisted exploding projectiles, which have already killed American troops.
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