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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    That is hardly a "a projection of military power" that that one paragraph says.
    Wait...so you're denying american hegemony.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Tell ya what Catawba I'll tell you the problem that I had with the first paragraph that I read and then we'll just leave it at that as I am not going to go through the whole thing when there are already errors in the first paragraph.



    First off there are 196 Countries in the world, not 226. So anything based off that number is going to be wrong.

    Second it gives no frame of reference for just how many "troops" are in those countries. For all you know there is 1. Granted I'm sure there's a few more but generally any place that we have an embassy at there is going to be a few troops at that embassy for reasons of security for the US citizens stationed there. That is hardly a "a projection of military power" that that one paragraph says.

    I agree.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight. Its okay for Israel or the US to attack Iran because they violated a treaty, but its not ok for the Palestinians to attack Israel for violating a treaty?
    By 'Palestinians', you mean terrorists?

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Wait...so you're denying american hegemony.
    It really depends on your definition of "hegemony". Is America a dominating force in the world? Most definitely. Does it try to influence other nations or society? Name me one country that doesn't...dominating or not. Hell, a single terrorist cell fits the definition of hegemony, as does a religious group.

    Unfortenately when most speak about "American hegemony" they talk about it in the negative aspect. Catawba's own link mentions things like "projection of military power" insinuating that the US is trying to force the world into subjugation by means of subterfuge and behind the scene's conquests. So in this sense, no I don't believe in American hegemony. But I do believe that the normal, neutral definition of hegemony could be applied.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    You are suggesting that I prove your point. That is ridiculous.

    My point, that Iran is of no military threat to the US, is made by the absence of and such declaration of threat by the US or by the UN. You have yet to present in evidence to the contrary.

    As David Stockman pointed out on GPS today, Iran is not part of the Axis of Evil, they are part of the Axis of Midevil, because they are so backward technologically.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    I don't understand Iran. They are obviously crazy. You would have to be right? Do these guys really think they can fight off The United States? Countries like this scare the s**** out of me. Instead of giving up their nuclear program, they are prepared to go toe to toe with the world. I just don't get it. The leader of this country is obviously not putting his citizens well-being before his own urge to not be seen as weak. This is called psycho leadership.

    A country like this possessing a nuclear weapon just cant happen. The middle east is still in the stone age of religion based terror and suppression. Our world will be a short one of these guys get nuclear.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My point, that Iran is of no military threat to the US, is made by the absence of and such declaration of threat by the US or by the UN. You have yet to present in evidence to the contrary.

    As David Stockman pointed out on GPS today, Iran is not part of the Axis of Evil, they are part of the Axis of Midevil, because they are so backward technologically.
    Doesn't matter how backward a country is when you have other countries that are not backward helping ya out.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Tell ya what Catawba I'll tell you the problem that I had with the first paragraph that I read and then we'll just leave it at that as I am not going to go through the whole thing when there are already errors in the first paragraph.



    First off there are 196 Countries in the world, not 226. So anything based off that number is going to be wrong.

    Second it gives no frame of reference for just how many "troops" are in those countries. For all you know there is 1. Granted I'm sure there's a few more but generally any place that we have an embassy at there is going to be a few troops at that embassy for reasons of security for the US citizens stationed there. That is hardly a "a projection of military power" that that one paragraph says.

    Congratulations, you found an error in the number of countries in the world.


    I guess that proves there's been no wars for US hegemony. Boy, you are good!!!
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    By 'Palestinians', you mean terrorists?
    Oh, you want to go by the Iraq war definition of terrorists, people who resist invasion of their land. I see.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Doesn't matter how backward a country is when you have other countries that are not backward helping ya out.
    If you wish to panic, knock yourself out. The US isn't and neither is the UN.
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