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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    In fact the last two NIE reports -- the consensus reports of our 16 intelligence services -- have concluded that Iran is NOT trying to develop a nuclear weapon. Odd how no one ever mentions that.
    Odd indeed. I guess its hard to fear monger if you go with the facts. That was certainly the case with Iraq.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

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    To what are your referring exactly? Our use of nukes on civilians was within our modern history.
    NVM, it was just a whimsical notation by me.

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    Then you would also have to consider any actions by countries that received American aid to be the responsibility of the US.
    There is a huge difference between giving aid with the intent to help secure peace and feed people and giving aid with the intent to cause harm.

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    But that is really unnecessary to make the point. The US alone has killed far more people in other countries than Iran and hezbollah combined. We killed a million in Vietnam alone.
    Lately I have doubted that number for Vietnam because of whats been happening with the death statistics with Iraq. Many people are trying to include the deaths caused by "insurgents" as the fault of the US. I wonder if the same thing happened with the Vietnam statistics.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    so significant it needs to be repeated:

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    In fact the last two NIE reports -- the consensus reports of our 16 intelligence services -- have concluded that Iran is NOT trying to develop a nuclear weapon. Odd how no one ever mentions that.
    but then Joseph Wilson authored What I Didn't Find in Africa to establish that the yellowcake connection to iraqi WMD development was a false positive. and instead of listening, the dicknbush regime outed the covert CIA status of his wife in an attempt to silence him from revealing the truth. let's hope we are now a smarter nation as a result of that experience
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post

    There is a huge difference between giving aid with the intent to help secure peace and feed people and giving aid with the intent to cause harm.
    Yeah, there would be if that were true. But in fact, most of our modern wars and attacks on other nations has been about world hegemony to make our fat rich people even richer.

    Lately I have doubted that number for Vietnam because of whats been happening with the death statistics with Iraq. Many people are trying to include the deaths caused by "insurgents" as the fault of the US. I wonder if the same thing happened with the Vietnam statistics.
    I guess you are not old enough to remember, that unlike in Iraq, we actually counted our kills in Vietnam. But since that info was used by the anti-war movement to help end the war, the military stopped counting our kills.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

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    Yeah, there would be if that were true. But in fact, most of our modern wars and attacks on other nations has been about world hegemony to make our fat rich people even richer.
    Opinion only.

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    I guess you are not old enough to remember, that unlike in Iraq, we actually counted our kills in Vietnam. But since that info was used by the anti-war movement to help end the war, the military stopped counting our kills.
    Yes I am too young. It ended a few short months before I was born.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Opinion only.
    I wish it was only my opinion, my country would have much less needless blood on its hands.

    Here's a timeline of US hegemony:

    Enforcing American Hegemony - A Timeline



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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I wish it was only my opinion, my country would have much less needless blood on its hands.

    Here's a timeline of US hegemony:

    Enforcing American Hegemony - A Timeline
    Biased site.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Biased site.
    ad hominen
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

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    ad hominen
    O.o How in the world is that an ad hominen?
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    O.o How in the world is that an ad hominen?
    You deemed it biased without refuting the content, or even reading it.
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