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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The source is the absence of the US or UN declaration that Iran is a threat to the US.
    Nonsense you refuse to provide a source.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Legal problem solved. Once they do so, it will be perceived by many as an admission Iran is making nukes. Obama or any future president would never be able to hold Israel back at that point. An attack on Iran by Israel would happen for certain. The US would probably join in. I prefer it as it stands, then an attack by anyone may not be happen at all.

    Lots of countries have nukes, we have about 10,000 ourselves. All Obama has to do to hold Israel back is say, if you do it, you are on your own, you will get no further military assistance or financial aid from the US.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Nonsense you refuse to provide a source.
    Okay, I just completed a thorough search and found no declaration of military threat by the US or the UN. If you don't believe me, prove me wrong.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Okay, I just completed a thorough search and found no declaration of military threat by the US or the UN. If you don't believe me, prove me wrong.
    That was not my position at all I stated the Iranian Ambassador claimed as much. You disagreed kindly site a source or don't. At this point you have provided nothing but opinion. Perhaps we have reached the end of this discussion.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    so, if iran withdraws from the NPT like israel, then it can develop nuclear weapons freely, like israel
    Israel was never a part of the NPT as far as I know. As far as your basic question..N. Korea seems to think so.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Lots of countries have nukes, we have about 10,000 ourselves. All Obama has to do to hold Israel back is say, if you do it, you are on your own, you will get no further military assistance or financial aid from the US.
    Yep.. that's exactly what Obama should do..

    We have no vested interest in Bibi's games or phony paranoia.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    That was not my position at all I stated the Iranian Ambassador claimed as much.
    I didn't disagree he said it, my point was that it was irrelevant as evidenced by the lack of an official statement from the US or the UN that Iran was a military threat to the US.

    Perhaps we have reached the end of this discussion.
    If you cannot provide proof the US or the UN has stated Iran is a military threat, then it would indeed appear to be the end of this discussion.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't follow your reasoning. The US has attacked more nations in modern history than Iran. We have have even used nukes on civilian populations. No other nuclear state has done that.
    First I gotta say, I do find it funny that whenever someone tries to assert something (like this topic or SSM...JUST for example) they always limit history to "modern history", and then go back as far as they can for the worst offense.

    Also the US has never used a nuclear weapon on anyone. They did use two Atom Bombs though. And yes there is a difference. One is a hell of a lot more powerful than the other. But that is being semantical so I'll just leave it at this.

    Bold: Openly yes. But we do not know how many nations that Iran has attacked through various terrorist groups...like hezbollah. And yes, I do consider them directly responsible for each of Hezbollah's attacks.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I didn't disagree he said it, my point was that it was irrelevant as evidenced by the lack of an official statement from the US or the UN that Iran was a military threat to the US.



    If you cannot provide proof the US or the UN has stated Iran is a military threat, then it would indeed appear to be the end of this discussion.
    In fact the last two NIE reports -- the consensus reports of our 16 intelligence services -- have concluded that Iran is NOT trying to develop a nuclear weapon. Odd how no one ever mentions that.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    First I gotta say, I do find it funny that whenever someone tries to assert something (like this topic or SSM...JUST for example) they always limit history to "modern history", and then go back as far as they can for the worst offense.
    To what are your referring exactly? Our use of nukes on civilians was within our modern history.

    Also the US has never used a nuclear weapon on anyone. They did use two Atom Bombs though. And yes there is a difference. One is a hell of a lot more powerful than the other. But that is being semantical so I'll just leave it at this.
    I agree, that is just semantics.

    Bold: Openly yes. But we do not know how many nations that Iran has attacked through various terrorist groups...like hezbollah. And yes, I do consider them directly responsible for each of Hezbollah's attacks.
    Then you would also have to consider any actions by countries that received American aid to be the responsibility of the US. But that is really unnecessary to make the point. The US alone has killed far more people in other countries than Iran and hezbollah combined. We killed a million in Vietnam alone.
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