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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Yeah... total smoking gun. When we invade and they don't have a nuke half the country can stare drooling with **** eating grins and pretend that somehow were still justified to invade by some means other than we stated.

    sucks...
    Iraq all over again, another $2 trillion dollar war with hundreds of thousands of deaths. Well, at least Paul Ryan has figured out a way to make our seniors pay for it!
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    How do you figure? This map doesn't even show the 22 nuclear sites.
    Compare the two..


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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Well, if Israel or the US bombs their 22 nuclear facilities, we will also destroy their oilfields and refineries.


    It wouldn't be the first time the US cut off its nose to spite its face.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It wouldn't be the first time the US cut off its nose to spite its face.
    There are better ways to manage this conflict.. and our politicians shouldn't cave to Netanyahu..

    As I read the news reports only half of Israelis agree with his push to attack Iran..

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Defense!!!! They are surrounded by 45 US bases, subs, and Israel, all armed with nukes to the teeth. I would be as busy as possible building nukes for defense if I were them.

    I thought we already went through this? If Israel had no nukes and the nuclear powered US bases and subs were not surrounding them, they would have no need of them.
    My questions were rhetorical in an attempt to get you to think a little more critically about the issue. It is extremely naive to think that Iran will stop pursuing nuclear weapons if we merely leave them alone. Iran, like every other country, wants to pursue its self interests. Whether that self interest would be in defense or in acquiring greater regional power.

    In fact, in a supreme case of irony, your "plan" would be much more likely to cause an Israel-Iran war. If the US abandoned its bases, subs, nukes, and Israel, I think it is safe to say Israel would feel extremely uneasy about the situation with Iran. Basically what you suggest would most likely cause a war.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    My questions were rhetorical in an attempt to get you to think a little more critically about the issue. It is extremely naive to think that Iran will stop pursuing nuclear weapons if we merely leave them alone. Iran, like every other country, wants to pursue its self interests. Whether that self interest would be in defense or in acquiring greater regional power.

    In fact, in a supreme case of irony, your "plan" would be much more likely to cause an Israel-Iran war. If the US abandoned its bases, subs, nukes, and Israel, I think it is safe to say Israel would feel extremely uneasy about the situation with Iran. Basically what you suggest would most likely cause a war.
    WHAT can Iran gain by bombing their neighbors?

    Iran is in the cat bird seat to prosper.. Look at a map.

    They can sell oil and gas to India, Pakistan and China via Gwadar.. and they can be an oil and gas transit state between the Stans along the Caspian and the Persian Gulf.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Compare the two..

    Somehow talk of WMDs in Arak makes me feel instinctively skeptical....

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Compare the two..
    It looks to me like 80% of the nuclear sites are situated far from oil sites.

    And how big do you expect the blast radiius of a bomb to be? We would NOT be using nukes on Iran. We would use conventional bombs and the most common of those would be 2000lb JDAMs. The blast radiius from one of them is 1200 ft. The oil facilities would reside Miles away. So there is no reason to think strikes on nuclear facilities would also hit the oil wells.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Somehow talk of WMDs in Arak makes me feel instinctively skeptical....

    Well, if Israel attacks Iran it will be a civilian bloodbath.. and if Iran and/or Syria get off an attack, Israel will regret it.. Iran and Syria could destroy the refineries in Haifa and desalination plants in Askelon and Ashedod.

    IMO.. this is a blackmail situation to continue settlement expansion in the West Bank..

    Its a really dangerous game.

    I hope Obama plays it well.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    WHAT can Iran gain by bombing their neighbors?

    Iran is in the cat bird seat to prosper.. Look at a map.

    They can sell oil and gas to India, Pakistan and China via Gwadar.. and they can be an oil and gas transit state between the Stans along the Caspian and the Persian Gulf.
    Even if Iran were to only gain a nuclear weapon for self defense it would cause other countries in the region to feel the need for nuclear weapons too. I do not think a cold war is in the best interests of the region. Especially considering the participants.

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